1 00:00:00,942 --> 00:00:15,372 [BanKs] what's going on everybody and welcome to another episode of the all about counter-strike podcast it's episode 59 it is the 3rd of may 2026 and right now it is 11 32 in the in the evening for me not the morning 2 00:00:15,352 --> 00:00:16,917 [BanKs] It's nearly the morning of the next day. 3 00:00:16,957 --> 00:00:18,199 [BanKs] But for Devil Walk, it's the morning. 4 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:20,545 [BanKs] It's actually the 4th of May for Devil Walk. 5 00:00:20,196 --> 00:00:29,751 [Devilwalk] Yes. 6 00:00:20,565 --> 00:00:23,894 [BanKs] And it is 32 minutes past the midnight. 7 00:00:24,015 --> 00:00:28,265 [BanKs] So you're up at the crack of this all starting out because we've obviously had... 8 00:00:28,245 --> 00:00:35,119 [BanKs] Vitality dominate once again when it comes to everything Counter-Strike, when it comes to just how phenomenal they can play Counter-Strike as a unit. 9 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,927 [BanKs] So it will be another episode of glazing these guys once again. 10 00:00:39,649 --> 00:00:41,052 [BanKs] We've got a lot to go through in this episode. 11 00:00:41,093 --> 00:00:42,375 [BanKs] There's a lot of news. 12 00:00:42,415 --> 00:00:43,457 [BanKs] There's a job change. 13 00:00:43,838 --> 00:00:45,783 [BanKs] There's the Blast Rivals review. 14 00:00:45,823 --> 00:00:46,844 [BanKs] Then... 15 00:00:46,234 --> 00:00:46,353 [Devilwalk] Thank you. 16 00:00:46,825 --> 00:01:04,715 [BanKs] after the news we've got two previews to do because there's atlanta which is like the smaller event right now and then astana where more of the big teams are going but they've also got their own storylines and opportunities in there so a lot to go through but um first of all dw what have you been going through on this week how has your week been 17 00:01:05,826 --> 00:01:07,670 [Devilwalk] Week has been good. 18 00:01:07,689 --> 00:01:13,501 [Devilwalk] I mean, it's been pretty good. 19 00:01:08,644 --> 00:01:09,566 [BanKs] He's lying. 20 00:01:09,606 --> 00:01:10,628 [BanKs] He's just straight lying. 21 00:01:14,522 --> 00:01:15,024 [Devilwalk] Honestly. 22 00:01:15,043 --> 00:01:19,212 [Devilwalk] I mean, no, it's actually been trash, but... 23 00:01:19,543 --> 00:01:20,805 [BanKs] See, there we go. 24 00:01:20,825 --> 00:01:21,426 [BanKs] Thank you. 25 00:01:21,165 --> 00:01:36,912 [Devilwalk] but for like job wise and everything it's been good but I've been doing some you know fucking tax shit and it's just stressing me out and I'm not good with it um 26 00:01:21,486 --> 00:01:25,152 [BanKs] Be honest. 27 00:01:35,188 --> 00:01:50,700 [BanKs] no one's good with tax no one actually says like i'm good with tax like it's a thing we must go through and do yeah 28 00:01:41,197 --> 00:01:52,825 [Devilwalk] It's such a special thing for... You know, if I'm a normal worker in Sweden, everything is kind of done for you. 29 00:01:52,924 --> 00:01:54,649 [Devilwalk] You just get a form and you say... 30 00:01:56,197 --> 00:01:59,015 [Devilwalk] Is this what you have earned this year? 31 00:01:59,215 --> 00:02:00,040 [Devilwalk] Yes or no? 32 00:01:59,438 --> 00:01:59,780 [BanKs] Yeah. 33 00:02:00,061 --> 00:02:03,340 [Devilwalk] And you just press yes and you've done your taxes, right? 34 00:02:03,847 --> 00:02:04,251 [BanKs] Yeah. 35 00:02:05,513 --> 00:02:13,188 [Devilwalk] But in esports, you have to kind of file in all these kind of documents, invoices, everything around it. 36 00:02:13,429 --> 00:02:14,973 [Devilwalk] Have you had any expenses? 37 00:02:15,372 --> 00:02:17,698 [Devilwalk] Blah, blah, blah. 38 00:02:17,717 --> 00:02:19,681 [Devilwalk] It's just, it's going over my head. 39 00:02:20,163 --> 00:02:23,409 [Devilwalk] And that shit stressed me out. 40 00:02:22,927 --> 00:02:25,092 [BanKs] It is a stress. 41 00:02:23,530 --> 00:02:24,331 [Devilwalk] So, yeah. 42 00:02:27,215 --> 00:02:28,216 [BanKs] I just remembered. 43 00:02:28,556 --> 00:02:30,699 [BanKs] I did just ping our little guy that's our recording. 44 00:02:30,719 --> 00:02:33,563 [BanKs] We're now recording in Discord as well as all the programs we're using. 45 00:02:33,584 --> 00:02:35,007 [BanKs] We changed program last episode. 46 00:02:35,026 --> 00:02:37,590 [BanKs] So that's why me and Devwalk's face just went a bit crazy. 47 00:02:38,170 --> 00:02:39,573 [BanKs] My week's been pretty cool. 48 00:02:38,268 --> 00:02:51,687 [Devilwalk] That should be right, yeah. 49 00:02:39,592 --> 00:02:40,794 [BanKs] I've just been chilling with baby. 50 00:02:40,814 --> 00:02:42,056 [BanKs] I've been watching a lot of Counter-Strike. 51 00:02:43,058 --> 00:02:45,342 [BanKs] I'll say my son is now on his... 52 00:02:45,322 --> 00:02:53,745 [BanKs] think it's his second final he's watched of navi already if i'm correct because we did rotterdam when he was we did rotterdam when he was born 53 00:02:53,877 --> 00:02:55,459 [BanKs] Yeah, and they didn't get finals in Rio. 54 00:02:55,620 --> 00:02:56,480 [BanKs] And then they just watched. 55 00:02:56,501 --> 00:03:01,868 [BanKs] So he's a true Na'Vi fan in the fact that he actually lost twice now already and got to suffer. 56 00:03:02,289 --> 00:03:05,895 [BanKs] And then at one point, we were barfing him while we were watching the final and he peed on me. 57 00:03:05,914 --> 00:03:09,240 [BanKs] So I got peed on and we lost the final. 58 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,143 [BanKs] That's just a great evening for me. 59 00:03:10,414 --> 00:03:25,858 [Devilwalk] Was it a clutch moment or? 60 00:03:12,540 --> 00:03:14,895 [BanKs] No, he was just normal round. 61 00:03:14,974 --> 00:03:18,736 [BanKs] I think it was a moment where Vitalik was just dominating in the beginning part of... 62 00:03:20,084 --> 00:03:20,865 [BanKs] I'm going to say Anubis. 63 00:03:20,906 --> 00:03:21,987 [BanKs] Yeah, Anubis is the second map, right? 64 00:03:22,268 --> 00:03:23,129 [BanKs] Yeah, Anubis. 65 00:03:23,169 --> 00:03:25,274 [BanKs] So anyway, we've got a lot to go through. 66 00:03:25,334 --> 00:03:26,074 [BanKs] My week's been pretty good. 67 00:03:26,094 --> 00:03:27,318 [BanKs] I can't complain about anything. 68 00:03:27,337 --> 00:03:28,300 [BanKs] Just been doing dad life. 69 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:33,169 [BanKs] Good news is soon we're traveling back for events, getting back on the road again and doing it all. 70 00:03:33,026 --> 00:03:51,137 [Devilwalk] Thank you. 71 00:03:33,509 --> 00:03:36,354 [BanKs] But one thing we need to talk about with you is... 72 00:03:36,335 --> 00:03:38,420 [BanKs] I got a message from Jaffa. 73 00:03:38,681 --> 00:03:39,183 [BanKs] Yeah. 74 00:03:39,204 --> 00:03:41,431 [BanKs] And Jaffa actually watches the stream. 75 00:03:42,334 --> 00:03:45,282 [BanKs] I'm going to bring this up on my phone because this made me laugh. 76 00:03:47,127 --> 00:03:47,590 [BanKs] Where is it? 77 00:03:48,010 --> 00:03:48,673 [BanKs] Devil Walk. 78 00:03:50,780 --> 00:03:51,581 [BanKs] So I sent it to you. 79 00:03:51,703 --> 00:03:56,317 [BanKs] Jaffa decided to say, is Devil still going to be as he is coaching Algo? 80 00:03:56,356 --> 00:04:04,502 [BanKs] Now, I love this because he could have added you, but instead he adds me like I'm your manager and I decide everything. 81 00:04:03,384 --> 00:04:07,455 [Devilwalk] But I still don't understand what that means. 82 00:04:07,576 --> 00:04:12,691 [Devilwalk] Ever since you sent it, is Devilwalk going to be as he is? 83 00:04:14,050 --> 00:04:16,196 [BanKs] I think he means like coaching the team. 84 00:04:16,456 --> 00:04:16,677 [BanKs] Yeah. 85 00:04:17,098 --> 00:04:21,612 [BanKs] Like I think he's trying to understand if you will be coaching the team, but you're not coaching the team, which is even funnier. 86 00:04:17,944 --> 00:04:18,627 [Devilwalk] But... 87 00:04:22,295 --> 00:04:26,588 [BanKs] But maybe does he mean like you're still going to do the podcast, which is yes, obviously you're still going to do the podcast. 88 00:04:26,728 --> 00:04:27,992 [BanKs] That doesn't eat into it. 89 00:04:27,516 --> 00:04:35,156 [Devilwalk] But to me, to me, it sounds almost like is Devil Walk really just going to be as he is with that team? 90 00:04:35,197 --> 00:04:40,571 [Devilwalk] It's like, we understand what I'm saying. 91 00:04:35,464 --> 00:04:55,482 [BanKs] is he fine being this no so so let me let me yeah yeah so let's bring this up we'll bring up the tweet algo put out there right because some people might look at this and think why the hell is devil coaching what seems to be quite a low down team if i'm being fair right i'm being honest this is the way we talk about anyone else 92 00:04:41,875 --> 00:04:42,014 [Devilwalk] To me, 93 00:04:55,461 --> 00:04:57,524 [BanKs] And it says, Algo Esports. 94 00:04:57,165 --> 00:05:03,906 [Devilwalk] No. 95 00:04:57,625 --> 00:05:01,752 [BanKs] Jonathan Devwalk Lundberg is joining Algo Esports as head of CS. 96 00:05:01,771 --> 00:05:03,053 [BanKs] So he's not joining as a coach. 97 00:05:03,514 --> 00:05:04,617 [BanKs] He's going for a different role. 98 00:05:04,637 --> 00:05:05,899 [BanKs] This is the first time you'll be doing it. 99 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,702 [BanKs] And your comment, your quote here, Devwalk. 100 00:05:06,536 --> 00:05:06,636 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 101 00:05:08,884 --> 00:05:11,007 [BanKs] I'm going to do my best Devwalk impression. 102 00:05:10,987 --> 00:05:19,809 [BanKs] Joining Algo is a new professional chapter for me, a fresh challenge where I can bring all my experience from competing, coaching, and working with some of the best in esports. 103 00:05:19,848 --> 00:05:21,874 [BanKs] Did you use ChatGPT to write this for you? 104 00:05:22,124 --> 00:05:40,334 [Devilwalk] No, I wrote it myself. 105 00:05:23,439 --> 00:05:24,461 [BanKs] Okay, it's pretty good. 106 00:05:24,482 --> 00:05:24,923 [BanKs] It's pretty good. 107 00:05:25,504 --> 00:05:37,471 [BanKs] My goal is to build Algo's CS division into a place players, coaches, and staff want to be part of, a healthy environment for growth with strong support and to help the team move forward in the VRS rankings. 108 00:05:37,853 --> 00:05:38,714 [BanKs] So... 109 00:05:39,067 --> 00:05:40,608 [BanKs] First of all, just tell me what you're doing. 110 00:05:40,629 --> 00:05:45,817 [BanKs] And I guess people thought that you're coaching because you've been sat in on the games, right? 111 00:05:46,271 --> 00:05:47,557 [Devilwalk] I have been, yes. 112 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:47,620 [BanKs] Yeah. 113 00:05:48,221 --> 00:05:48,701 [BanKs] Hands on. 114 00:05:49,002 --> 00:05:50,204 [BanKs] Hands on head of esports. 115 00:05:50,223 --> 00:05:50,644 [BanKs] Let's go. 116 00:05:50,665 --> 00:05:52,708 [BanKs] So how did this opportunity come about? 117 00:05:52,767 --> 00:05:54,089 [BanKs] What's the crack of it all? 118 00:05:54,471 --> 00:05:57,295 [BanKs] How many players are you kicking and removing to actually find it? 119 00:05:59,300 --> 00:06:05,672 [Devilwalk] It was actually... You know, I got a tweet from one of the players there. 120 00:06:06,336 --> 00:06:08,461 [BanKs] Oh. 121 00:06:06,754 --> 00:06:07,435 [Devilwalk] Like a DM. 122 00:06:07,755 --> 00:06:08,437 [Devilwalk] It was Nukia. 123 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:09,403 [BanKs] Please don't kick me. 124 00:06:08,617 --> 00:06:17,814 [Devilwalk] I've coached him in the past when we were in No Chance before he went to... 125 00:06:11,947 --> 00:06:12,307 [BanKs] Yeah, yeah. 126 00:06:16,935 --> 00:06:17,276 [BanKs] Battle? 127 00:06:17,795 --> 00:06:24,716 [Devilwalk] no no no he went to what what's that hell hell hell hell racers yeah 128 00:06:19,060 --> 00:06:19,341 [BanKs] Okay. 129 00:06:22,466 --> 00:06:22,947 [BanKs] Cow Rises? 130 00:06:24,709 --> 00:06:25,071 [BanKs] Yep. 131 00:06:25,843 --> 00:06:33,577 [Devilwalk] He went to Hellraisers for a time there, coached them for a couple of months, maybe six months, something along those lines before he went there. 132 00:06:32,375 --> 00:06:45,404 [BanKs] Solid. 133 00:06:34,300 --> 00:06:43,136 [Devilwalk] And yeah, he just reached out and said that Algo was looking for this position and if I would be interested to, you know, having an interview with their owner. 134 00:06:43,716 --> 00:06:45,860 [Devilwalk] So that's essentially how it went down. 135 00:06:45,841 --> 00:06:51,495 [Devilwalk] Now what I do, basically I'm there to restructure. 136 00:06:51,637 --> 00:06:55,867 [Devilwalk] I came into a team that only had three players. 137 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:54,982 [BanKs] Oh. 138 00:06:55,848 --> 00:07:08,355 [Devilwalk] and it was a little bit chaotic and everything so for my job it's been to stabilize the roster first of all talk with players make sure we get the roster functioning 139 00:07:08,334 --> 00:07:12,641 [Devilwalk] And then essentially everything around the CS team is my responsibility. 140 00:07:09,002 --> 00:07:09,283 [BanKs] Yep. 141 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:27,762 [Devilwalk] If that is coaching staff, other support staff members that are needed, looking at LAN events that we want to attend for VRS and just making sure that everything is... 142 00:07:27,742 --> 00:07:29,769 [Devilwalk] you know, run in a way that 143 00:07:31,252 --> 00:07:32,754 [Devilwalk] It's beneficial for everyone. 144 00:07:33,276 --> 00:07:43,235 [BanKs] Yep. 145 00:07:33,637 --> 00:07:42,396 [Devilwalk] I have my way of coaching and maybe philosophical beliefs of how I want the team to function and stuff like that. 146 00:07:42,456 --> 00:07:48,129 [Devilwalk] And I can help the team with my expertise and the... 147 00:07:48,110 --> 00:07:55,742 [Devilwalk] You know, maybe problem solve a lot of times because that's what... At the end of the day, that's what CS teams kind of do every single day. 148 00:07:54,487 --> 00:07:54,872 [BanKs] Yeah. 149 00:07:54,894 --> 00:07:55,151 [BanKs] Yeah. 150 00:07:55,884 --> 00:07:57,065 [Devilwalk] It's just problem solving. 151 00:07:57,846 --> 00:08:04,819 [Devilwalk] So for me, just seeing if everything is what it is and if there is, you know... 152 00:08:04,798 --> 00:08:06,100 [Devilwalk] Other opportunities. 153 00:08:06,442 --> 00:08:08,444 [Devilwalk] Be prepared for other opportunities. 154 00:08:08,485 --> 00:08:12,812 [Devilwalk] Everything around what a CS team essentially is. 155 00:08:13,233 --> 00:08:13,714 [Devilwalk] It's my job. 156 00:08:14,822 --> 00:08:29,877 [BanKs] there's a lot of weight on your shoulder with this one mate damn and it's a ukrainian organization or the owner's ukrainian yep 157 00:08:18,362 --> 00:08:18,603 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 158 00:08:19,785 --> 00:08:20,867 [Devilwalk] But it's fun also. 159 00:08:25,673 --> 00:08:37,799 [Devilwalk] Well, the owner is Ukrainian, but I think it is technically maybe not a Ukrainian org. 160 00:08:37,940 --> 00:08:43,673 [Devilwalk] I don't know really how to categorize that. 161 00:08:38,312 --> 00:08:58,211 [BanKs] okay where they're registered where they're set up all right well good luck mate you get to have yourself some fun time with that one it's a new challenge something else to do you know you're getting older you should move on from just being a coach you know i just want to see you're still coaching 162 00:08:43,712 --> 00:08:44,695 [Devilwalk] That's not really up to me. 163 00:08:47,019 --> 00:08:47,457 [Devilwalk] Thank you. 164 00:08:47,707 --> 00:08:48,104 [Devilwalk] Thank you. 165 00:08:54,697 --> 00:09:09,179 [Devilwalk] yeah even though the itches do get to me when when i sit there and look at the players and and you know hear all the discussions i kind of just want to jump in and say my my piece um but it's been fun 166 00:09:01,769 --> 00:09:02,090 [BanKs] Yeah. 167 00:09:08,179 --> 00:09:09,061 [BanKs] You have to hold your tongue. 168 00:09:09,962 --> 00:09:11,745 [BanKs] You find yourself having to bite your tongue a little bit. 169 00:09:12,062 --> 00:09:27,573 [Devilwalk] I do, I do, because I also know like I shouldn't be imposing too much because there's another coach who wants it in his way and, you know, yeah, I don't want to be, I probably already have, but yeah, it is what it is. 170 00:09:17,975 --> 00:09:20,200 [BanKs] Yeah, don't step on his toes. 171 00:09:28,229 --> 00:09:28,570 [BanKs] All right. 172 00:09:28,669 --> 00:09:33,927 [BanKs] Well, give us a little... I've got to go close the door so the baby can actually not hear my voice and sleep. 173 00:09:34,028 --> 00:09:38,462 [BanKs] So we're going to be doing Blast Rivals Review as our first thing before we get into news reference. 174 00:09:38,562 --> 00:09:41,192 [BanKs] So go down just... 175 00:09:41,172 --> 00:09:45,562 [BanKs] Your overall quick thoughts, because I'll still hear you with my wonderful wireless headset here. 176 00:09:46,423 --> 00:09:50,131 [BanKs] Yeah, go down your thoughts just on what you thought of Blast Rivals as a whole, mate. 177 00:09:51,043 --> 00:09:51,671 [Devilwalk] As a whole? 178 00:09:51,691 --> 00:09:53,510 [Devilwalk] Oh, wow. 179 00:09:52,096 --> 00:09:53,860 [BanKs] Yeah, overall, overarching. 180 00:09:53,921 --> 00:09:54,783 [BanKs] No, just quickly. 181 00:09:54,883 --> 00:09:56,706 [BanKs] Don't go into details and stuff yet. 182 00:09:56,950 --> 00:09:59,735 [Devilwalk] Okay, I'm buying your time. 183 00:09:57,048 --> 00:09:58,049 [BanKs] You're buying me time. 184 00:09:59,794 --> 00:10:07,528 [Devilwalk] So Blast Rivals was, to me, like an interesting tournament. 185 00:10:07,928 --> 00:10:15,701 [Devilwalk] I think it ended up being more interesting than maybe I originally even thought a lot of that had to do with, you know... 186 00:10:15,682 --> 00:10:22,215 [Devilwalk] Foot kind of playing with their coach and not having long stares. 187 00:10:22,235 --> 00:10:25,341 [Devilwalk] But there were still some very, very exciting games. 188 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,628 [Devilwalk] We saw kind of a resurgence of a gamer legion. 189 00:10:28,607 --> 00:10:31,875 [Devilwalk] So there were a lot of interesting elements. 190 00:10:32,277 --> 00:10:38,371 [Devilwalk] As for the tournament as a whole, I thought maybe the audience could have stepped up a little bit there in Texas. 191 00:10:38,597 --> 00:10:49,975 [BanKs] massively finally 360 for blast 192 00:10:38,711 --> 00:10:44,405 [Devilwalk] I was slightly disappointed about how empty it looked there. 193 00:10:45,043 --> 00:10:49,731 [Devilwalk] With a beautiful stage, beautiful setup, everything was great. 194 00:10:50,111 --> 00:10:52,956 [Devilwalk] Everything looked great from that perspective. 195 00:10:53,477 --> 00:11:00,589 [Devilwalk] You know, you could see players, even BM, a little bit on stage, and, you know, there was... 196 00:11:00,568 --> 00:11:02,094 [Devilwalk] I thought it was set up beautifully. 197 00:11:02,936 --> 00:11:05,303 [Devilwalk] There was nothing wrong with the setup from Blast. 198 00:11:06,273 --> 00:11:07,897 [BanKs] That's to be expected with Blasto, right? 199 00:11:07,937 --> 00:11:08,859 [BanKs] They always have a good setup. 200 00:11:08,879 --> 00:11:09,780 [BanKs] We can't knock them on that. 201 00:11:09,437 --> 00:11:10,860 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 202 00:11:10,783 --> 00:11:13,409 [BanKs] But it was sad for me. 203 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:11,423 [Devilwalk] So that... 204 00:11:13,470 --> 00:11:17,058 [BanKs] Obviously, not just because I wasn't there, but more for the fact that 205 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:24,259 [BanKs] Obviously, Austin was so good, and I know it's a major, but normally I've done also Dallas, which is ESL, right? 206 00:11:25,142 --> 00:11:27,268 [BanKs] American crowds are normally fire. 207 00:11:27,990 --> 00:11:38,000 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 208 00:11:28,024 --> 00:11:32,533 [BanKs] Maybe we got some American audience in the podcast chat. 209 00:11:32,572 --> 00:11:34,056 [BanKs] Maybe you can let us know in the comments. 210 00:11:34,777 --> 00:11:36,539 [BanKs] Where was the Americans for this event? 211 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:38,082 [BanKs] Why was it such a bad turnout? 212 00:11:38,123 --> 00:11:41,808 [BanKs] Because I looked Friday and thought, okay, you know, it's just bad. 213 00:11:42,049 --> 00:11:42,691 [BanKs] It's Friday. 214 00:11:43,432 --> 00:11:47,298 [BanKs] Saturday, it was a small amount better. 215 00:11:47,413 --> 00:11:48,979 [BanKs] Maybe it was more better for the people in there. 216 00:11:48,999 --> 00:11:51,046 [BanKs] I can always say this as someone who works in the arenas. 217 00:11:52,129 --> 00:11:59,634 [BanKs] Often the stream doesn't do it justice, but like there's so much effort that I think Blast have put into it because there was new graphics and 218 00:12:00,424 --> 00:12:03,916 [BanKs] new stage things, new awesome stuff that was being implemented. 219 00:12:00,525 --> 00:12:12,442 [Devilwalk] I mean... 220 00:12:05,179 --> 00:12:09,533 [BanKs] But then it was just very depressing because even the Sunday was just nothing. 221 00:12:10,296 --> 00:12:13,826 [BanKs] You heard the crowd because Americans can be loud, but it was just so empty, man. 222 00:12:14,296 --> 00:12:18,684 [Devilwalk] The games they did seem to attend was the face game. 223 00:12:19,525 --> 00:12:25,859 [Devilwalk] The face games, they were at least there and loud and cheering and booing, whatever they were doing. 224 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:28,336 [BanKs] Yeah. 225 00:12:26,721 --> 00:12:27,822 [Devilwalk] You could hear them at least. 226 00:12:28,356 --> 00:12:28,557 [BanKs] Yep. 227 00:12:28,625 --> 00:12:33,333 [Devilwalk] I felt it was a little bit lackluster in the rest of the games. 228 00:12:34,072 --> 00:12:34,533 [BanKs] Definitely. 229 00:12:35,174 --> 00:12:36,817 [BanKs] I'll agree with that. 230 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:46,437 [BanKs] I will also say that like obviously for Blast, because they run this eight team setup, it might be less appealing for people to go for. 231 00:12:42,206 --> 00:12:48,690 [Devilwalk] Thank you. 232 00:12:46,517 --> 00:12:50,445 [BanKs] And obviously like your big names were Na'Vi and Vitality. 233 00:12:50,424 --> 00:12:54,653 [BanKs] You missed out a lot of the other big names because it's hard for some of the other teams to get visas. 234 00:12:56,317 --> 00:12:57,440 [BanKs] I'll come on to a bit of that later. 235 00:12:57,539 --> 00:12:59,924 [BanKs] But let's go down initially our predictions, right? 236 00:13:00,004 --> 00:13:02,190 [BanKs] So we had a couple of fails. 237 00:13:02,169 --> 00:13:03,916 [BanKs] We had a couple of wins. 238 00:13:04,498 --> 00:13:10,538 [BanKs] So I said Foot would beat Vitality, but that was before Lowndes was announced to not be there. 239 00:13:05,730 --> 00:13:20,111 [Devilwalk] you're trying to say your prediction was correct really should have been correct 240 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,812 [BanKs] Obviously, I hope he's better and going to be there for Atlanta. 241 00:13:17,442 --> 00:13:18,206 [BanKs] It should have been. 242 00:13:18,710 --> 00:13:18,770 [BanKs] No. 243 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:21,568 [BanKs] Hey, they pushed vitality. 244 00:13:21,811 --> 00:13:22,837 [BanKs] They pushed vitality. 245 00:13:22,807 --> 00:13:29,258 [Devilwalk] Yeah, I said they would take a map, and I said they would push them, but I still thought Vitality would win. 246 00:13:23,562 --> 00:13:23,924 [BanKs] Yeah. 247 00:13:29,557 --> 00:13:43,416 [BanKs] yeah so vitality obviously they came into this event straight from the beginning saying we've just not practiced they only practiced like a couple of practice games once they got to america so they had time off between rio as they deserve and then going into this event and they still looks crazy 248 00:13:43,395 --> 00:13:44,658 [BanKs] So you were right. 249 00:13:44,697 --> 00:13:45,679 [BanKs] You said Vitality would win. 250 00:13:45,860 --> 00:13:46,621 [BanKs] I said Foot would win. 251 00:13:46,982 --> 00:13:47,243 [BanKs] Whatever. 252 00:13:47,263 --> 00:13:48,446 [BanKs] I'll take the loss on that. 253 00:13:48,466 --> 00:13:49,868 [BanKs] You said Astralis would beat G2. 254 00:13:50,129 --> 00:13:50,769 [BanKs] I said G2. 255 00:13:50,789 --> 00:13:52,052 [BanKs] I got that one right. 256 00:13:51,344 --> 00:13:58,772 [Devilwalk] Thank you. 257 00:13:52,332 --> 00:13:53,775 [BanKs] We both said Na'Vi would beat FaZe. 258 00:13:54,155 --> 00:13:54,576 [BanKs] Fair enough. 259 00:13:54,596 --> 00:13:55,177 [BanKs] That went through. 260 00:13:55,658 --> 00:13:58,985 [BanKs] We both said FURIA would beat Game Legion. 261 00:13:59,405 --> 00:14:00,948 [BanKs] This was the disappointing one. 262 00:14:01,908 --> 00:14:04,000 [BanKs] This is so, so sad. 263 00:14:04,019 --> 00:14:05,910 [BanKs] So, so sad. 264 00:14:05,951 --> 00:14:07,902 [BanKs] Like... 265 00:14:06,903 --> 00:14:15,782 [Devilwalk] Yeah, it's... I mean, if we remove, like, kind of... Maybe we should talk about Furia more in depth later, but... 266 00:14:14,716 --> 00:14:16,240 [BanKs] Yeah, we'll go on to it. 267 00:14:16,299 --> 00:14:17,221 [BanKs] Yeah, we'll go on to it. 268 00:14:17,482 --> 00:14:19,607 [BanKs] Because what I want to also talk about some of the other things we said. 269 00:14:19,668 --> 00:14:23,697 [BanKs] So I said foot will move to semis because I'm just a big foot believer. 270 00:14:23,778 --> 00:14:25,322 [BanKs] Obviously, it wasn't that was Vitality. 271 00:14:25,643 --> 00:14:28,087 [BanKs] And then I said G2 and Vitality would go to quarters. 272 00:14:28,148 --> 00:14:40,470 [Devilwalk] I said Vitality and Astralis in the final and Foot going through in the lower bracket. 273 00:14:28,730 --> 00:14:29,893 [BanKs] It didn't happen being that way. 274 00:14:31,456 --> 00:14:32,860 [BanKs] We got Astralis there instead. 275 00:14:40,702 --> 00:14:41,364 [BanKs] Yeah, yeah. 276 00:14:41,585 --> 00:14:43,710 [BanKs] So we were off considering. 277 00:14:41,913 --> 00:14:47,423 [Devilwalk] Which is all kinds of wrong. 278 00:14:44,672 --> 00:14:47,597 [BanKs] We were off because obviously the foot thing happened, right? 279 00:14:48,019 --> 00:14:51,187 [BanKs] But on B, I was pretty close to being right. 280 00:14:51,768 --> 00:14:54,173 [BanKs] I said Na'Vi, Fury, and FaZe were through. 281 00:14:54,192 --> 00:14:55,876 [BanKs] I think I was the only one that said FaZe through, right? 282 00:14:56,852 --> 00:15:15,148 [Devilwalk] Yep, I said gay millennium, which we both... 283 00:14:57,494 --> 00:14:57,775 [BanKs] Yeah. 284 00:14:58,500 --> 00:14:59,668 [BanKs] And you said game leasing. 285 00:14:59,688 --> 00:15:00,697 [BanKs] You didn't get game leasing right. 286 00:15:00,817 --> 00:15:01,683 [BanKs] I didn't get phase right. 287 00:15:01,865 --> 00:15:03,758 [BanKs] But we were both wrong about Fury. 288 00:15:05,289 --> 00:15:09,299 [BanKs] By the way, my fantasy team for Blast Rivals was absolutely dog. 289 00:15:09,701 --> 00:15:10,663 [BanKs] I got one point. 290 00:15:10,724 --> 00:15:16,538 [BanKs] I had Fallen and Molidoy because I just thought some magic would happen after Fallen's announcement of retirement. 291 00:15:16,940 --> 00:15:17,701 [BanKs] That didn't work out. 292 00:15:17,721 --> 00:15:21,291 [BanKs] That was depressing at the same time. 293 00:15:21,270 --> 00:15:23,836 [BanKs] Obviously, we both predicted Vitality to win the whole event. 294 00:15:23,855 --> 00:15:24,397 [BanKs] Well, guess what? 295 00:15:24,417 --> 00:15:25,379 [BanKs] There's no surprises there. 296 00:15:25,399 --> 00:15:28,264 [BanKs] This just keeps on happening again and again and again. 297 00:15:28,284 --> 00:15:31,211 [BanKs] So let's just go down our analysis of the teams. 298 00:15:31,672 --> 00:15:36,883 [BanKs] I think for Foot, we just skip because this isn't them, you know? 299 00:15:37,657 --> 00:15:45,548 [BanKs] And even though they played with Coolio, respect him for being able to stand in for Lowndes, they still had competitive games. 300 00:15:40,727 --> 00:15:56,644 [Devilwalk] I mean, he held his own to some degree. 301 00:15:46,229 --> 00:15:49,533 [BanKs] The Astralis one, I'm not even going to count this in the head-to-head. 302 00:15:49,553 --> 00:15:57,284 [BanKs] If I hear people quote this head-to-head when we're talking about how good the head-to-head has been between these two teams, I'm going to keep saying you've got to avoid this one because... 303 00:15:57,264 --> 00:16:09,434 [BanKs] they they played their coach man it's not the same this doesn't count this isn't what i'm going to focus on so let's jump straight to furia because furia was the team in a more than rough spot here 304 00:16:02,024 --> 00:16:20,269 [Devilwalk] No. 305 00:16:09,414 --> 00:16:17,376 [BanKs] I was sure after a fourth place at Rio and Fuller announcing his retirement that this team would have more energy in some ways. 306 00:16:17,517 --> 00:16:20,504 [BanKs] Maybe I was just delusional, but I looked at it as if 307 00:16:21,548 --> 00:16:40,602 [BanKs] furia know the time they've got make the most of it they can go even harder for fallen and pushing forward on what success you can have both games went three maps but like gamer legion okay you win the first map 13-5 molodoy was at his best and i'm sat there going oh okay we're we're really cooking with this 308 00:16:40,582 --> 00:16:44,851 [BanKs] You lose nuke 13, five, which is your pick by the way. 309 00:16:45,192 --> 00:16:47,096 [BanKs] And then you lose mirage to them as well. 310 00:16:47,557 --> 00:16:50,043 [BanKs] I'm not going to say like, I don't know. 311 00:16:50,062 --> 00:16:57,899 [BanKs] I'm not going to say any players on game Legion are bad, but like we've been hyping up PR talking very positively about him, but, 312 00:16:56,394 --> 00:17:09,477 [Devilwalk] No, but I think the problem is that you look at this and you say, okay, FaZe and GamerLeader are probably the two weakest teams at this event going into it, right? 313 00:17:08,781 --> 00:17:12,688 [BanKs] Yeah. 314 00:17:09,457 --> 00:17:11,480 [Devilwalk] And Furia lost to both of them. 315 00:17:11,721 --> 00:17:16,351 [Devilwalk] I think that's kind of the statement where it goes wrong for Furia when you look at this. 316 00:17:16,411 --> 00:17:26,672 [Devilwalk] And yes, they aren't in great shape, but they're still, you know, they're third on HLTV, eighth on VRS. 317 00:17:27,028 --> 00:17:27,128 [BanKs] Yeah. 318 00:17:27,148 --> 00:17:27,229 [BanKs] Mhm. 319 00:17:28,255 --> 00:17:30,378 [Devilwalk] And you're supposed to beat number 41 and 22. 320 00:17:30,398 --> 00:17:33,885 [Devilwalk] I mean, that's just how it is. 321 00:17:32,525 --> 00:17:32,925 [BanKs] You see? 322 00:17:34,086 --> 00:17:38,755 [Devilwalk] And that's why it's such a major kind of letdown from a team like Furia. 323 00:17:41,355 --> 00:17:41,656 [BanKs] But 324 00:17:41,759 --> 00:17:43,383 [Devilwalk] Yeah, I don't know how else to explain it. 325 00:17:43,423 --> 00:17:45,386 [Devilwalk] I mean, phase one is just... 326 00:17:46,970 --> 00:18:05,603 [Devilwalk] We'll go on to that later. 327 00:17:49,635 --> 00:17:54,321 [BanKs] Well, it's also, I'm not going to doubt some of the players that are on FaZe's team, right? 328 00:17:54,342 --> 00:17:55,544 [BanKs] We know what Frozen can do. 329 00:17:56,025 --> 00:17:59,650 [BanKs] Twist, even if he's taken over IGL, he's still one of the elite players, right? 330 00:18:00,190 --> 00:18:08,741 [BanKs] But it's the way the scorelines, the decision-making, like how off FURIA felt now. 331 00:18:10,965 --> 00:18:16,536 [BanKs] I know they were saying that they had some people stay a bit longer in Rio. 332 00:18:16,576 --> 00:18:17,877 [BanKs] I heard on one interview, right? 333 00:18:17,998 --> 00:18:24,769 [BanKs] And then obviously traveling here, Fulham went to Miami rather than staying in Rio. 334 00:18:23,690 --> 00:18:36,551 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 335 00:18:24,789 --> 00:18:27,674 [BanKs] So I'm wondering maybe their practice wasn't that good. 336 00:18:27,789 --> 00:18:38,153 [BanKs] but it does put them in a worrying spot now, not for anything of their major hopes, but it just, to me, shows that they are a team that's now out of title contention. 337 00:18:39,214 --> 00:18:44,787 [BanKs] This isn't a team I'm looking at who can be title contenders as of right now, even if they were at the end of last year. 338 00:18:42,589 --> 00:18:57,060 [Devilwalk] Okay, so I have a question on one of the statements you said, which was they announced Fallen's retirement and that they would come with a little bit more energy now. 339 00:18:48,412 --> 00:18:53,509 [BanKs] Yep. 340 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:01,509 [Devilwalk] If you're in a team... 341 00:18:57,701 --> 00:18:57,982 [BanKs] Yeah. 342 00:19:01,861 --> 00:19:10,967 [Devilwalk] Imagine the biggest leader, the biggest star has announced he is going to leave within a seven-month period. 343 00:19:11,429 --> 00:19:11,906 [BanKs] Mm hmm. 344 00:19:13,694 --> 00:19:16,241 [Devilwalk] Do you take that as a positive thing? 345 00:19:17,790 --> 00:19:18,512 [Devilwalk] Or a negative. 346 00:19:18,553 --> 00:19:30,770 [Devilwalk] Like, in my shoes, I just see it as like, fuck, you know, it doesn't matter what we do because in seven months, this isn't the team kind of deal. 347 00:19:31,797 --> 00:19:51,122 [BanKs] i understand your thinking but what i'm i'm maybe i'm reading again too much into the emotional or the personal side but the way i looked at it was like monodoy was almost crying when he knew fordham was going right uh case of our and yuri respect him um your kinder looks up to him right and speaks so positive about him in interviews 348 00:19:51,051 --> 00:19:57,917 [Devilwalk] Sure. 349 00:19:51,102 --> 00:19:56,164 [BanKs] So now it's time where they look at it and say, we are doing this for him, his legacy, his ending. 350 00:19:57,289 --> 00:19:59,400 [BanKs] But that's like, I could take it that way. 351 00:19:57,938 --> 00:19:59,383 [Devilwalk] In a perfect world. 352 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:00,505 [BanKs] Yeah, yeah, yeah. 353 00:20:00,990 --> 00:20:01,652 [Devilwalk] I think... 354 00:20:02,999 --> 00:20:13,380 [Devilwalk] If they were in like a momentum period like they were last year where they just kind of steamrolled people, they looked better and better every tournament they played... 355 00:20:12,601 --> 00:20:13,094 [BanKs] Mm hmm. 356 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:26,559 [Devilwalk] but if I was like Molodoy and I kind of credit a lot of what's going on in my career for the past one year to that person and he announcing he's leaving 357 00:20:26,539 --> 00:20:33,821 [Devilwalk] That would be devastating for me as if I just look into Moldoy's shoes, you know. 358 00:20:34,318 --> 00:20:34,694 [BanKs] Yeah. 359 00:20:34,423 --> 00:20:38,173 [Devilwalk] Fallen gave me my career to a certain degree. 360 00:20:38,234 --> 00:20:41,123 [Devilwalk] He scouted me, he wanted to put me in, he believed in me. 361 00:20:43,432 --> 00:20:44,756 [Devilwalk] And in seven months, that's over. 362 00:20:47,261 --> 00:20:55,163 [Devilwalk] I think everyone wants to do what you're saying, but I think the emotional impact can be different. 363 00:20:56,289 --> 00:21:15,362 [BanKs] yeah and obviously also depends on their emotional intelligence with it all and how they can all handle it as a team they might well they probably knew before anyone else as well but i would say maybe they all maybe they're all thinking about who is going to replace him what's the next steps maybe their minds not actually focused on what it should be 364 00:21:02,804 --> 00:21:04,769 [Devilwalk] They probably haven't even digested it fully yet. 365 00:21:16,574 --> 00:21:20,281 [BanKs] We won't know unless I just ask him and try and find out. 366 00:21:16,643 --> 00:21:16,864 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 367 00:21:20,403 --> 00:21:27,618 [BanKs] But I mean, this looked bad and it has to be a course correct. 368 00:21:27,979 --> 00:21:33,672 [BanKs] There has to be some wake up now because we're getting closer to the last couple of events before the major. 369 00:21:34,781 --> 00:21:47,939 [Devilwalk] I will say, though, Gamer Legion and FaZe, both in this tournament, play way beyond their rankings and what they have been looking like on paper for the past couple of months. 370 00:21:43,252 --> 00:21:48,775 [BanKs] Yeah. 371 00:21:48,779 --> 00:21:54,326 [Devilwalk] They played great, and it wasn't just Furia who got shocked by their performance. 372 00:21:48,796 --> 00:21:48,875 [BanKs] Mhm. 373 00:21:54,307 --> 00:21:58,303 [Devilwalk] the quality that Gamer Legion and FaZe kind of showed up with. 374 00:21:58,364 --> 00:22:00,451 [Devilwalk] So in that sense... 375 00:22:02,423 --> 00:22:18,339 [Devilwalk] if you look at it from like a perspective of now the tournament has ended we see what they have actually done both gamer legion and face is it as disappointing looking at furia now compared to you know initially in the group stage 376 00:22:18,943 --> 00:22:19,471 [BanKs] Yeah. 377 00:22:23,180 --> 00:22:32,453 [BanKs] I think it's hard to say an event like this and I'm taking a lot of these results with a pinch of salt because all you had to do was win one game to make playoffs. 378 00:22:23,365 --> 00:22:38,251 [Devilwalk] We'll wait and see. 379 00:22:33,234 --> 00:22:40,005 [BanKs] When we're talking about this top eight, top six being in playoffs, rivals is such a, obviously it's all changing in blast for next year, right? 380 00:22:40,025 --> 00:22:41,086 [BanKs] They've learned from this. 381 00:22:41,067 --> 00:22:58,704 [BanKs] All the format changes, all the way they're doing things, but this is such an anomaly event that it doesn't compare right now, even though it has the good prize money, it doesn't compare to a Rio or an Astana or a Cluj or something like that, you know? 382 00:22:58,684 --> 00:22:59,616 [Devilwalk] Yeah, yeah. 383 00:22:59,343 --> 00:23:05,532 [BanKs] Because the wiggle room to do good or bad is like, it's not Swiss system. 384 00:23:07,296 --> 00:23:11,362 [BanKs] It's not playing through the Bucol system. 385 00:23:11,482 --> 00:23:12,284 [BanKs] You know, it's nothing. 386 00:23:12,805 --> 00:23:17,010 [BanKs] It's a group A, B. You win one game, you're through. 387 00:23:17,030 --> 00:23:18,634 [BanKs] You lose two games, you're out. 388 00:23:19,474 --> 00:23:23,140 [BanKs] And you can be saved by just having like a good one-off day, you know? 389 00:23:24,232 --> 00:23:43,913 [Devilwalk] True, that makes it even worse. 390 00:23:26,140 --> 00:23:40,977 [BanKs] yeah but it makes it worse on both sides it also makes it hard for me to quantify like this game of legion run how many times have we seen game legion go to like a pgl event yeah and they suffer because it's the um three games to go through and they can't handle it you know 391 00:23:40,957 --> 00:23:43,902 [BanKs] That's my thinking when it comes to this. 392 00:23:46,085 --> 00:23:52,615 [BanKs] G2 is who I want to look at next because G2, I feel like this is a positive. 393 00:23:49,461 --> 00:24:02,121 [Devilwalk] They should have won. 394 00:23:52,674 --> 00:23:57,462 [BanKs] I'm still impressed by some of what I'm seeing here, and I'm liking it, but... 395 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,464 [BanKs] They almost had Vitality 2-0. 396 00:24:00,247 --> 00:24:10,035 [BanKs] That 2-0 was right there for the... Well, they did lose the first half 10-2, but it's the way they came back into the second half. 397 00:24:10,015 --> 00:24:19,029 [BanKs] do the same to him and then it was getting like it's the it's the crazy streak of rounds so when g2 had theirs right on their t side it was a couple of odd rounds 398 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:26,606 [Devilwalk] Thank you. 399 00:24:19,836 --> 00:24:22,101 [BanKs] One player I'll point out as well is Son Pius. 400 00:24:22,782 --> 00:24:26,489 [BanKs] Still, even though he's not leading now and even though Hunter's back, still very positive. 401 00:24:27,211 --> 00:24:31,038 [BanKs] I'm still seeing a Son Pius that is like, he's back. 402 00:24:31,439 --> 00:24:36,647 [BanKs] It wasn't a one tournament wonder last time around when Hunter wasn't there and he was just calling for himself. 403 00:24:36,949 --> 00:24:39,634 [BanKs] Like something has been figured out a bit better here for him. 404 00:24:39,614 --> 00:24:53,623 [BanKs] um but i will say once vitality got to overtime boy that was there was a different there was no chance for g2 because those last couple of rounds right they had vitality on the ropes they had vitality on low economy um 405 00:24:45,384 --> 00:24:56,644 [Devilwalk] Thank you. 406 00:24:53,603 --> 00:24:55,186 [BanKs] They had Vitality pressured as well. 407 00:24:55,247 --> 00:24:56,369 [BanKs] Like, it was theirs. 408 00:24:56,690 --> 00:24:57,653 [BanKs] It was really theirs. 409 00:24:57,712 --> 00:24:59,076 [BanKs] And then you win over Pass as well. 410 00:24:59,296 --> 00:25:02,924 [BanKs] Dust2, by the way, was a map that G2 were picking at some points. 411 00:25:02,944 --> 00:25:04,188 [BanKs] Like, it was a good map for G2. 412 00:25:04,568 --> 00:25:07,596 [BanKs] And they got absolutely battered in the end as well. 413 00:25:08,403 --> 00:25:11,011 [Devilwalk] Yeah, but Vitality's Dust 2 is just next level. 414 00:25:11,452 --> 00:25:13,599 [Devilwalk] It is really, really next level. 415 00:25:14,604 --> 00:25:19,881 [Devilwalk] I don't know what their stat... Oh, they've lost it once, and it's against foot. 416 00:25:19,861 --> 00:25:38,982 [Devilwalk] it is their paramount like kind of first pick it is incredibly good it's one of those maps with vitality where they have everything figured out how they want to be aggressive how they want to like in different ways it's beautiful to watch and there's constant pressure 417 00:25:40,651 --> 00:25:48,496 [Devilwalk] So I understand why when you go against Vitality, Dust2 isn't really... Maybe you're okay with it as a last. 418 00:25:49,117 --> 00:25:53,833 [Devilwalk] Maybe, but they would never... No one in their right mind picks Dust2 against Vitality. 419 00:25:54,369 --> 00:25:54,650 [BanKs] Yeah. 420 00:25:56,973 --> 00:26:01,619 [BanKs] And then the sad part is going to come for them, losing to FaZe on the quarterfinals. 421 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:06,846 [BanKs] Now, we can say, yeah, FaZe had the power behind them of the crowd and stuff. 422 00:26:07,228 --> 00:26:09,671 [BanKs] But for me, I'll ignore the first two maps. 423 00:26:09,750 --> 00:26:12,153 [BanKs] Like, FaZe picked us two against G2. 424 00:26:12,213 --> 00:26:14,116 [BanKs] And again, I'm going to keep saying... 425 00:26:14,096 --> 00:26:16,343 [BanKs] G2's Dust2 was, in general, looking pretty good. 426 00:26:16,363 --> 00:26:18,367 [BanKs] Sunpires, again, had a phenomenal map here. 427 00:26:20,272 --> 00:26:23,762 [BanKs] It was a lot of clutches going the way of FaZe, which obviously benefited them. 428 00:26:24,344 --> 00:26:26,309 [BanKs] Then G2 win their pick of Ancient. 429 00:26:26,410 --> 00:26:27,613 [BanKs] I wouldn't say it was any real problems. 430 00:26:27,647 --> 00:26:33,923 [Devilwalk] But I think that this game, this game was the best game in the entire tournament. 431 00:26:28,174 --> 00:26:29,237 [BanKs] This Mirage. 432 00:26:30,180 --> 00:26:30,621 [BanKs] Oof. 433 00:26:34,065 --> 00:26:39,258 [Devilwalk] The G2 phase game, hands down, hands down the most exciting game. 434 00:26:35,798 --> 00:26:36,645 [BanKs] Most excited. 435 00:26:39,499 --> 00:26:42,246 [Devilwalk] It was craziness happening on the server. 436 00:26:43,048 --> 00:26:43,750 [Devilwalk] It was... 437 00:26:43,055 --> 00:27:02,835 [BanKs] craziness i'm gonna i'm gonna quote shock shock said because i love that the fact that she dropped the dragon ball reference during the broadcast she said frozen went super saiyan and he actually did this guy was doing i don't know there was a moment did you do you remember the moment where it was like do you remember the moment where it was um twists and frozen retaking from ct spawn 438 00:26:48,826 --> 00:27:04,000 [Devilwalk] Did you see that? 439 00:27:02,815 --> 00:27:06,243 [BanKs] And they just clean up everyone in a matter of seconds. 440 00:27:06,484 --> 00:27:11,037 [BanKs] And it's like, bro, they were just, they hit that point. 441 00:27:07,237 --> 00:27:08,740 [Devilwalk] Oh yes, yes, yes, yes. 442 00:27:11,076 --> 00:27:15,828 [BanKs] And that was one of those rounds where if it had gone G2's way, I feel like G2 win that game. 443 00:27:16,420 --> 00:27:17,963 [Devilwalk] Yeah, I agree, I agree. 444 00:27:16,770 --> 00:27:17,732 [BanKs] That would have been there. 445 00:27:17,752 --> 00:27:21,101 [BanKs] Because it was like a tech nine round, like heavy got pushed through the smoke and pushed in. 446 00:27:19,749 --> 00:27:21,532 [Devilwalk] Was it 2v4 or something? 447 00:27:21,221 --> 00:27:22,364 [BanKs] Yeah, yeah, yeah. 448 00:27:23,406 --> 00:27:24,710 [BanKs] It was super incredible. 449 00:27:25,511 --> 00:27:26,292 [BanKs] Super incredible. 450 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:33,857 [Devilwalk] But it's also like, you know, some of the resident sleepers, like Broky, fantastic tournament from him. 451 00:27:33,810 --> 00:27:34,172 [BanKs] Yeah. 452 00:27:34,459 --> 00:27:36,063 [Devilwalk] And this game, he was fantastic. 453 00:27:36,163 --> 00:27:40,914 [Devilwalk] He had pretty low rating, but I think frag-wise, he had a lot of impact. 454 00:27:42,178 --> 00:27:44,482 [Devilwalk] He was 51 and 40. 455 00:27:44,462 --> 00:27:46,369 [Devilwalk] With a 104 rating. 456 00:27:46,730 --> 00:27:50,605 [Devilwalk] So it's a pretty low rating compared to his kill-death ratio. 457 00:27:49,980 --> 00:27:54,373 [BanKs] But his impact, and he also had the 1.29 round swing. 458 00:27:55,596 --> 00:27:58,463 [BanKs] So, like, he was impactful in the rounds he was getting. 459 00:27:55,743 --> 00:27:56,025 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 460 00:28:00,123 --> 00:28:04,608 [Devilwalk] And that's like... And I also like this nature guy. 461 00:28:04,628 --> 00:28:07,712 [Devilwalk] He did some really, really important stuff. 462 00:28:05,962 --> 00:28:06,183 [BanKs] Mm-hmm. 463 00:28:10,276 --> 00:28:11,897 [Devilwalk] Was it the G2 Mirage game? 464 00:28:11,978 --> 00:28:19,768 [Devilwalk] I think it was the Mirage game where he was like kind of dancing around the B boxes on site in that 1v2. 465 00:28:18,365 --> 00:28:33,690 [BanKs] yeah the timing the time yeah it was like a cat and mouse mm-hmm yep he played with nerds yeah he played with nerds on that 466 00:28:20,186 --> 00:28:26,519 [Devilwalk] Because he was boosted on top of box first, and then he kind of killed the planter coming from short, and he dropped down. 467 00:28:26,578 --> 00:28:38,162 [Devilwalk] He kind of played around with him for like 12, 13 seconds and just won it by the... 468 00:28:35,340 --> 00:28:43,798 [BanKs] The thing is here, when you look at this for G2, G2 as a team and the time they've been together should be doing way better than this phase. 469 00:28:40,825 --> 00:29:00,000 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 470 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:44,441 [BanKs] Yeah. 471 00:28:45,162 --> 00:28:47,226 [BanKs] And they should be more than able to handle this. 472 00:28:48,087 --> 00:28:58,529 [BanKs] I don't think there's anyone's like so much I'm going to put blame on here, but I'm just going to put this is another part where it just makes me think that G2 are kind of just a middling team, you know? 473 00:28:58,509 --> 00:29:02,814 [BanKs] Like to not take these kind of games over the line is a problem for them. 474 00:29:00,019 --> 00:29:00,099 [Devilwalk] Hmm. 475 00:29:03,901 --> 00:29:04,503 [BanKs] A big problem. 476 00:29:05,951 --> 00:29:08,896 [Devilwalk] Yeah, I mean, 100%. 477 00:29:09,597 --> 00:29:22,340 [Devilwalk] FaZe, you know, we heard, I think, Alexi B even talking about it after they played FaZe that they probably had like 10 days of practice with this lineup, if even that. 478 00:29:20,396 --> 00:29:37,213 [BanKs] Cook. 479 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:30,441 [Devilwalk] So, for G2 to lose against this face is... I mean, it's kind of embarrassing for all teams. 480 00:29:30,580 --> 00:29:35,452 [Devilwalk] Furia, as well as G2. 481 00:29:36,782 --> 00:29:37,925 [Devilwalk] But FaZe was strong. 482 00:29:37,233 --> 00:29:37,494 [BanKs] Cook. 483 00:29:38,186 --> 00:29:39,972 [Devilwalk] They were unpredictable. 484 00:29:40,053 --> 00:29:42,661 [Devilwalk] They felt like they were on point individually. 485 00:29:42,740 --> 00:29:45,769 [Devilwalk] Something we haven't seen in a while from them. 486 00:29:46,739 --> 00:29:49,444 [BanKs] But how like looking at that, you said unpredictable. 487 00:29:48,218 --> 00:29:49,019 [Devilwalk] But it's... 488 00:29:49,925 --> 00:29:54,356 [BanKs] A lot of their plays was very gamble heavy, very rush heavy, very all in. 489 00:29:54,416 --> 00:29:54,978 [BanKs] Yeah. 490 00:29:56,020 --> 00:29:58,025 [BanKs] Is that something that you can build upon? 491 00:29:57,808 --> 00:29:58,068 [Devilwalk] Thank you. 492 00:29:58,185 --> 00:30:05,742 [BanKs] Or is this just like a early part where we look at and say, okay, it's working for now, but could we, is that sustainable? 493 00:30:07,022 --> 00:30:09,886 [Devilwalk] I don't think that that's their approach to everything. 494 00:30:10,048 --> 00:30:23,749 [Devilwalk] I just think that they found a way to start playing together and they found a simplified version of Counter-Strike where they can use their skill, they can create chaos and they play a high speed kind of 495 00:30:21,468 --> 00:30:36,826 [BanKs] mhm mhm 496 00:30:24,893 --> 00:30:36,082 [Devilwalk] Counter-Strike with high pressure, which is something that FaZe has always been good at, but it's been more on an individual basis, more defaulty in the past. 497 00:30:36,163 --> 00:30:38,970 [Devilwalk] Now it's more explosive and unpredictable. 498 00:30:39,980 --> 00:30:45,349 [Devilwalk] So I think in that sense, they've just done the best they can in the situation they're in. 499 00:30:45,390 --> 00:30:54,866 [Devilwalk] I don't think we're going to see FaZe be exactly the same in all the tournaments going forward with this lineup. 500 00:30:54,886 --> 00:30:58,073 [Devilwalk] I think they're definitely going to have to... 501 00:30:58,053 --> 00:31:08,705 [Devilwalk] develop something else because that stuff is easily read with today's programs like Skybox or whatever when you watch people's patterns or behaviors. 502 00:31:06,372 --> 00:31:06,781 [BanKs] Yeah. 503 00:31:09,429 --> 00:31:11,454 [Devilwalk] It's pretty easy to shut that stuff down. 504 00:31:12,582 --> 00:31:17,009 [Devilwalk] But it's good to have in your playbook to throw in every once in a while. 505 00:31:17,049 --> 00:31:20,134 [Devilwalk] But I'm expecting a more developed phase as time moves on. 506 00:31:21,694 --> 00:31:23,903 [BanKs] Yeah, yeah, definitely, definitely. 507 00:31:26,275 --> 00:31:29,207 [BanKs] So away from G2 then, we can move to Astralis. 508 00:31:30,384 --> 00:31:37,017 [BanKs] Astralis also obviously super positive when we look at where they got to at EPL finals into Bucharest. 509 00:31:30,573 --> 00:31:30,792 [Devilwalk] Yep. 510 00:31:38,038 --> 00:31:40,383 [BanKs] Here they lose to G2. 511 00:31:40,644 --> 00:31:44,411 [BanKs] It's the way they lost to G2, which was kind of sad, especially on their pick of overpass. 512 00:31:42,619 --> 00:31:43,164 [Devilwalk] Thank you. 513 00:31:46,173 --> 00:31:50,402 [BanKs] I just expect more from Astralis, especially from what we've seen from them. 514 00:31:50,382 --> 00:32:06,028 [BanKs] then they beat foot but this is a beating foot where it's the coach standing so okay and then again they lose overpass this time to gamer legion rez had a fantastic time but so did snacks and i gotta credit this 515 00:32:05,231 --> 00:32:06,653 [Devilwalk] PR was back. 516 00:32:07,342 --> 00:32:15,133 [BanKs] PR's been back and I think someone touched on it in one of the interviews with PR that like, since Snacks came in, he's not been the same player, right? 517 00:32:15,153 --> 00:32:18,144 [BanKs] It'd been a long time of not seeing PR at the same level. 518 00:32:18,125 --> 00:32:21,211 [BanKs] But whatever's happened, whatever changes come in, he's found his groove again. 519 00:32:21,230 --> 00:32:21,972 [BanKs] He's found his form. 520 00:32:21,992 --> 00:32:27,304 [BanKs] And that's the PR that I honestly didn't think would be staying on Game of Legion because someone would come and snap him up. 521 00:32:27,324 --> 00:32:28,807 [BanKs] So maybe we're back on that train again. 522 00:32:27,507 --> 00:32:37,585 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 523 00:32:29,327 --> 00:32:33,215 [BanKs] But also, like, Game of Legion were 9-3 down. 524 00:32:33,236 --> 00:32:37,585 [BanKs] 9-3 down on Inferno and win 16-14. 525 00:32:38,762 --> 00:32:39,164 [BanKs] Like. 526 00:32:40,830 --> 00:32:43,882 [BanKs] I'm not saying that it's only. 527 00:32:43,015 --> 00:32:45,298 [Devilwalk] It was worse than 9.3. 528 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:47,222 [Devilwalk] I watched it today. 529 00:32:48,164 --> 00:32:52,333 [Devilwalk] Sorry, my voice is... Yeah, it's like dry throat. 530 00:32:48,500 --> 00:32:49,584 [BanKs] Mm hmm. 531 00:32:49,604 --> 00:32:50,105 [BanKs] You're dying. 532 00:32:55,499 --> 00:32:56,560 [Devilwalk] It was way worse. 533 00:32:56,580 --> 00:32:58,644 [Devilwalk] It was 12.4. 534 00:32:59,519 --> 00:33:01,782 [BanKs] Because this was the last map. 535 00:33:01,823 --> 00:33:02,545 [BanKs] This was the last map. 536 00:33:02,585 --> 00:33:03,567 [BanKs] It was late, late, late. 537 00:33:03,646 --> 00:33:04,509 [BanKs] So I don't remember everything. 538 00:33:05,730 --> 00:33:06,291 [BanKs] You keep drinking. 539 00:33:06,311 --> 00:33:06,772 [BanKs] That's fine. 540 00:33:08,395 --> 00:33:10,440 [BanKs] Snacks was a beast on this map as well. 541 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:11,221 [BanKs] He was pulling them. 542 00:33:11,561 --> 00:33:15,469 [BanKs] Like, the thing is, Snacks is the gift that keeps on giving, man. 543 00:33:15,809 --> 00:33:17,393 [BanKs] Snacks, like... 544 00:33:17,373 --> 00:33:21,066 [BanKs] People wanted to count him out after a stint with G2 and say he wasn't going to do it again. 545 00:33:18,402 --> 00:33:18,795 [Devilwalk] Thank you. 546 00:33:21,247 --> 00:33:24,017 [BanKs] But I'm still saying he's got it, man. 547 00:33:24,057 --> 00:33:24,759 [BanKs] He's still got it. 548 00:33:25,020 --> 00:33:26,125 [BanKs] And he can lead the team. 549 00:33:26,486 --> 00:33:28,092 [BanKs] If they believe in him, he can lead the team. 550 00:33:29,184 --> 00:33:31,192 [Devilwalk] No, he was really good in this game. 551 00:33:32,217 --> 00:33:35,430 [Devilwalk] He had some really, really snappy moments. 552 00:33:35,569 --> 00:33:39,886 [Devilwalk] He's the reason they actually made this comeback on Inferno. 553 00:33:41,317 --> 00:33:45,484 [Devilwalk] He had so many important kills, he picked up the pistol round on CT side. 554 00:33:46,386 --> 00:33:54,019 [Devilwalk] They did lose afterwards in the anti-eco scenario, but he was immense in this game. 555 00:33:55,383 --> 00:33:58,347 [Devilwalk] Him and Ress were the powerhouse on Inferno. 556 00:33:59,576 --> 00:34:02,845 [Devilwalk] And, I mean, we're talking about Astralis here. 557 00:34:03,526 --> 00:34:21,753 [BanKs] Flip-flopping. 558 00:34:05,089 --> 00:34:12,829 [Devilwalk] And for me, I see Astralis as someone who can wake up on the right side of bed and they can play a great game on Counter-Strike. 559 00:34:13,670 --> 00:34:16,016 [Devilwalk] We see it every single tournament. 560 00:34:16,739 --> 00:34:20,556 [Devilwalk] It's almost like they're like, I don't know, like floppy. 561 00:34:21,987 --> 00:34:22,849 [Devilwalk] They're flip-flopping. 562 00:34:23,731 --> 00:34:28,103 [Devilwalk] Because it's one good game, one bad game, one good game, one bad game. 563 00:34:28,449 --> 00:34:28,876 [BanKs] Yep. 564 00:34:28,684 --> 00:34:30,068 [Devilwalk] And it's always like this. 565 00:34:30,530 --> 00:34:35,885 [Devilwalk] I mean, I can look back at other tournaments where they've played where I've been impressed, disappointed. 566 00:34:36,085 --> 00:34:37,971 [Devilwalk] Impressed, disappointed. 567 00:34:37,951 --> 00:34:45,327 [Devilwalk] It just keeps happening that they can't figure out a way to have that stability. 568 00:34:45,487 --> 00:34:49,456 [Devilwalk] I mean, the one tournament they had was obviously PGL Bucharest. 569 00:34:49,476 --> 00:34:54,626 [Devilwalk] But if you look at other tournaments, it's kind of flip-floppy depending on the day. 570 00:34:56,918 --> 00:35:11,206 [Devilwalk] And it's like you say, first game, Astralis G2, they don't really stand a chance, but I'd still consider, you know, Astralis to be in the same kind of category as G2. 571 00:35:07,110 --> 00:35:07,391 [BanKs] Yeah. 572 00:35:11,606 --> 00:35:12,789 [BanKs] Yeah, but that's what I would agree. 573 00:35:11,728 --> 00:35:16,496 [Devilwalk] They should be able to match up, you know, it should be close. 574 00:35:13,793 --> 00:35:13,972 [BanKs] Yeah. 575 00:35:14,835 --> 00:35:17,003 [BanKs] You expect that to be more competitive, more competitive. 576 00:35:16,864 --> 00:35:18,489 [Devilwalk] Yes, it should be a third mapper. 577 00:35:18,509 --> 00:35:19,451 [Devilwalk] It should be tight. 578 00:35:19,510 --> 00:35:21,635 [Devilwalk] It should be... Yeah. 579 00:35:23,139 --> 00:35:25,826 [Devilwalk] And as you say, the foot game, we can't really count it. 580 00:35:26,327 --> 00:35:31,880 [Devilwalk] It's a good game for Astralis, but can we really count it in the same way? 581 00:35:30,583 --> 00:35:49,739 [BanKs] no it's not one that's a bit harsh but i know what you mean yeah yeah no i know what you mean yep 582 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:33,844 [Devilwalk] And then it's just... 583 00:35:34,262 --> 00:35:40,097 [Devilwalk] But then if we kind of summarize Astralis tournament, they came to the quarterfinals winning zero games. 584 00:35:40,637 --> 00:35:41,280 [Devilwalk] That's how it is. 585 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,364 [Devilwalk] That's how it is. 586 00:35:44,166 --> 00:35:49,099 [Devilwalk] If we can't count... Yeah, but if we can't count the foot game... 587 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,097 [Devilwalk] They just lost their way to the quarters and lost. 588 00:35:53,300 --> 00:35:55,596 [Devilwalk] You know, like, it's weird. 589 00:35:54,157 --> 00:35:54,668 [BanKs] Yeah. 590 00:35:56,757 --> 00:36:01,668 [Devilwalk] So they have one win and it's against foot in this tournament and losing the quarterfinals. 591 00:36:02,268 --> 00:36:03,492 [Devilwalk] I don't think it was good enough. 592 00:36:04,012 --> 00:36:06,778 [Devilwalk] I think this is where they should be pushing a gamer legion. 593 00:36:06,798 --> 00:36:08,884 [Devilwalk] They should be overpowering a gamer legion. 594 00:36:09,744 --> 00:36:12,791 [Devilwalk] They should definitely be making it much closer against the G2. 595 00:36:13,666 --> 00:36:24,992 [BanKs] yeah um and they're going to some of the smaller events are going to atlanta which we'll cover later on as well but that's one where they should have more well i would say on paper a better chance to thrive as well 596 00:36:25,242 --> 00:36:32,394 [BanKs] Looking next at FaZe, who I think we're pleasantly surprised by, considering Nature's just standing in for these guys at the moment. 597 00:36:33,096 --> 00:36:34,858 [BanKs] Do you want a fun fact? 598 00:36:36,762 --> 00:36:41,952 [BanKs] The first practice game that FaZe played was against Falcons with Kerrigan. 599 00:36:37,072 --> 00:36:55,873 [Devilwalk] yeah sure ah I saw that yeah slightly awkward you don't have to accept them 600 00:36:46,420 --> 00:36:51,235 [BanKs] Obviously, by the way, for people who don't know, you have to accept these games, right? 601 00:36:51,556 --> 00:36:55,409 [BanKs] So, like, you put the games out there, you go on to the thing that gives them. 602 00:36:56,012 --> 00:36:58,641 [BanKs] No, I mean, you have to choose to accept them, yeah? 603 00:36:58,621 --> 00:36:59,963 [BanKs] Both teams agreed to this. 604 00:36:58,621 --> 00:36:59,202 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 605 00:37:00,163 --> 00:37:01,445 [BanKs] That's what's brilliant. 606 00:37:00,244 --> 00:37:13,929 [Devilwalk] It's not random. 607 00:37:01,485 --> 00:37:04,168 [BanKs] It's not like you just put a time slot and you get a random team. 608 00:37:04,369 --> 00:37:06,331 [BanKs] No, this was something they agreed on. 609 00:37:06,351 --> 00:37:10,918 [BanKs] I do hear that Falcons did win that practice game, but it is just a practice game, whatever. 610 00:37:11,217 --> 00:37:14,362 [BanKs] That was day one of practice for Falcons with Kerrigan as well. 611 00:37:15,023 --> 00:37:18,367 [BanKs] That's an interesting zinger one in there. 612 00:37:18,347 --> 00:37:25,606 [BanKs] But looking at this, since Budapest, this is the best performance for FaZe Clan. 613 00:37:23,242 --> 00:37:23,360 [Devilwalk] Thank you. 614 00:37:26,396 --> 00:37:46,025 [BanKs] twist is igl they're kind of worried in the back of their minds that is frozen even going to want to stay with this team now yeah or how long until maybe frozen gets pulled into falcons after if tessus doesn't make it you know i don't know anything that could happen in that that world of speculation um 615 00:37:44,706 --> 00:37:48,219 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 616 00:37:46,005 --> 00:37:48,112 [BanKs] But this phase, they played with some heart. 617 00:37:48,574 --> 00:37:49,737 [BanKs] They played with some confidence. 618 00:37:50,300 --> 00:37:52,989 [BanKs] They lost to Na'Vi twice 2-0. 619 00:37:53,190 --> 00:37:54,172 [BanKs] But they beat FURIA. 620 00:37:54,233 --> 00:37:55,175 [BanKs] They beat G2. 621 00:37:55,195 --> 00:37:57,483 [BanKs] I... 622 00:37:56,806 --> 00:37:59,132 [Devilwalk] I'd argue even that this is the best performance. 623 00:37:59,152 --> 00:38:08,637 [Devilwalk] If we remove the Budapest Majors over a year ago, we've seen a face even as competent as this performance. 624 00:38:03,927 --> 00:38:04,628 [BanKs] Mega D run. 625 00:38:05,789 --> 00:38:06,530 [BanKs] Let me look at that. 626 00:38:10,277 --> 00:38:11,639 [BanKs] Yeah, EPL 22, right? 627 00:38:11,918 --> 00:38:13,380 [BanKs] Fourth place. 628 00:38:14,929 --> 00:38:15,050 [Devilwalk] 22? 629 00:38:15,070 --> 00:38:18,480 [Devilwalk] Oh, oh, yeah. 630 00:38:15,545 --> 00:38:15,985 [BanKs] Before that. 631 00:38:17,447 --> 00:38:17,967 [BanKs] Season 22. 632 00:38:18,349 --> 00:38:19,349 [BanKs] Season 22, not 2022. 633 00:38:18,501 --> 00:38:22,592 [Devilwalk] Yeah, I was like, wow, that's not that long ago. 634 00:38:19,471 --> 00:38:23,657 [BanKs] No, no, season 22. 635 00:38:23,173 --> 00:38:25,179 [Devilwalk] It's not that far back, I'm thinking. 636 00:38:25,780 --> 00:38:26,963 [BanKs] Season 22. 637 00:38:27,467 --> 00:38:27,807 [Devilwalk] Yeah, yeah, yeah. 638 00:38:27,806 --> 00:38:28,047 [BanKs] Yeah. 639 00:38:28,949 --> 00:38:31,677 [BanKs] That was fourth place for them and then everything else after that was pretty terrible. 640 00:38:32,599 --> 00:38:33,824 [BanKs] Outside of Budapest, obviously. 641 00:38:34,657 --> 00:38:36,300 [Devilwalk] Yeah, it's a long time ago. 642 00:38:35,228 --> 00:38:35,789 [BanKs] So yeah. 643 00:38:37,119 --> 00:38:51,400 [BanKs] again okay you only win two games but you beat a furio you beat a g2 the g2 one is like the big legit one for me um fair enough you're not able to challenge navi and it kind of both just goes the same way but it's like 644 00:38:49,262 --> 00:38:52,226 [Devilwalk] Still didn't play badly. 645 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:57,349 [BanKs] No, and both times on Ancient it was close, considering that's, like, the Makazi special map as well. 646 00:38:58,873 --> 00:39:04,545 [BanKs] I'll say that, like, it's respectable considering Na'Vi is, like, the second best team in the world right now. 647 00:39:04,525 --> 00:39:05,949 [BanKs] and it's something they can be proud of. 648 00:39:06,009 --> 00:39:11,001 [BanKs] Also, NKJ, Frozen spoke about him, very structured, how he's doing all these things. 649 00:39:11,541 --> 00:39:13,547 [BanKs] He has all that structure, right? 650 00:39:13,588 --> 00:39:17,016 [BanKs] Obviously, they're playing a bit more gun-ho at the moment, but 651 00:39:18,429 --> 00:39:28,590 [BanKs] This could be a nice balance because it is a bit sad for me when I hear Twist say like, yeah, I'm ready to take over this IGL thing again because he did it in Liquid and I want to see him back to being a star. 652 00:39:23,088 --> 00:39:23,257 [Devilwalk] Thank you. 653 00:39:29,030 --> 00:39:33,780 [BanKs] And he was like, look down his ratings in these events. 654 00:39:34,101 --> 00:39:37,789 [BanKs] In general, even when they were doing badly, he was having good events. 655 00:39:37,938 --> 00:39:39,061 [BanKs] Like, he's mainly in the green. 656 00:39:39,081 --> 00:39:40,527 [BanKs] He has a couple of red tournaments in here. 657 00:39:42,693 --> 00:39:45,402 [BanKs] But him and Frozen were the mega carries of that team. 658 00:39:45,844 --> 00:39:47,469 [BanKs] He's obviously going to have to sacrifice some of that. 659 00:39:47,891 --> 00:39:48,793 [BanKs] He even did this event. 660 00:39:48,552 --> 00:40:05,733 [Devilwalk] Thank you. 661 00:39:49,757 --> 00:39:51,222 [BanKs] But, I mean... 662 00:39:51,202 --> 00:40:09,733 [BanKs] if he really wants to do this and he's now got nkj who can be that very structured person behind it and also he's now got a point to prove because twist was the one publicly talking about all this stuff with carrigan right and if he's gonna then show up and make this team deliver where carrigan couldn't that's that's got a bit of spice to it 663 00:40:10,777 --> 00:40:23,222 [Devilwalk] It's got a little bit of spice and it's also like, I don't know, it's weird to me that an in-game leader leaves and all of a sudden the team performs better. 664 00:40:16,918 --> 00:40:17,340 [BanKs] Okay. 665 00:40:25,445 --> 00:40:26,248 [BanKs] It's just one event. 666 00:40:25,465 --> 00:40:25,967 [Devilwalk] I don't know. 667 00:40:26,487 --> 00:40:27,351 [BanKs] It's just one event. 668 00:40:28,376 --> 00:40:36,942 [Devilwalk] It is just one event, but... And I'm not saying that this will ever be the case, but it still poses the question in my mind. 669 00:40:37,744 --> 00:40:43,280 [Devilwalk] You know, it's like I go back to... Kiyoshima was the problem, you know, and... 670 00:40:43,260 --> 00:40:51,621 [Devilwalk] And all of this, and you know, I've seen some memes kind of come up on Reddit and Twitter and stuff like that, where it's like, Kerrigan, what's the problem? 671 00:40:48,543 --> 00:41:08,255 [BanKs] as always okay it obviously didn't work you can't even explain it good 672 00:40:51,762 --> 00:41:01,405 [Devilwalk] Or, I don't know, they incorporated his name into like a problem, like, I don't know what they kind of mesh together, but... 673 00:41:02,768 --> 00:41:07,038 [Devilwalk] Someone's tried something, it didn't really stick. 674 00:41:07,057 --> 00:41:08,000 [Devilwalk] No, no. 675 00:41:10,043 --> 00:41:21,891 [Devilwalk] But it poses me the question, it makes me so interested, like even more interested to see what Falcons eventually is going to be. 676 00:41:21,871 --> 00:41:23,152 [Devilwalk] When they have their debut. 677 00:41:23,594 --> 00:41:28,822 [Devilwalk] And for me, it also applies a lot more pressure on a Falcons debut with Kerrigan. 678 00:41:23,811 --> 00:41:37,255 [BanKs] Yeah. 679 00:41:29,101 --> 00:41:36,134 [Devilwalk] Because I think people kind of look at this event, they look at Faze's performance like, oh, they're revitalized. 680 00:41:36,193 --> 00:41:40,199 [Devilwalk] They are, you know, they're back again and Kerrigan isn't there. 681 00:41:40,742 --> 00:41:40,842 [BanKs] Yep. 682 00:41:42,052 --> 00:41:46,422 [Devilwalk] I think the next, you know, they see face and next is like, where's Falcons? 683 00:41:46,563 --> 00:41:47,164 [Devilwalk] Where's Falcons? 684 00:41:47,224 --> 00:41:47,824 [Devilwalk] Where's Kerrigan? 685 00:41:47,302 --> 00:41:48,233 [BanKs] Yeah. 686 00:41:47,985 --> 00:41:53,657 [Devilwalk] You know, I think it's just a natural way of, of like being human. 687 00:41:53,697 --> 00:41:57,025 [Devilwalk] You look at this and now I want to see this. 688 00:41:55,333 --> 00:41:56,356 [BanKs] There's gonna be comparison. 689 00:41:57,117 --> 00:41:57,958 [BanKs] Yeah, there's a comparison. 690 00:41:57,978 --> 00:41:59,320 [BanKs] There's always going to be a comparison, right? 691 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,485 [BanKs] Especially with how high profile it is at the same time. 692 00:42:02,742 --> 00:42:03,085 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 693 00:42:03,226 --> 00:42:05,891 [BanKs] But I'm never going to jump the gun on this when it comes to face. 694 00:42:05,931 --> 00:42:10,257 [BanKs] But I'll say that this was a positive surprise because I honestly just had them going out in last place. 695 00:42:10,277 --> 00:42:13,083 [BanKs] Like I didn't think they would have any hope in hell chance. 696 00:42:11,432 --> 00:42:12,617 [Devilwalk] It's the best they've played. 697 00:42:12,657 --> 00:42:15,184 [Devilwalk] It's the absolute best they've played for over a year. 698 00:42:13,784 --> 00:42:13,983 [BanKs] Yeah. 699 00:42:15,286 --> 00:42:19,599 [Devilwalk] I think even stints during the major, they played way worse than they did in this. 700 00:42:20,056 --> 00:42:39,280 [BanKs] Fort Worth, yeah. 701 00:42:20,742 --> 00:42:22,809 [Devilwalk] And it's fun to see. 702 00:42:22,789 --> 00:42:24,373 [Devilwalk] It's great to see. 703 00:42:24,413 --> 00:42:39,364 [Devilwalk] We need these kinds of excitement, because I think this is the only games where the audience actually were on their feet, screaming, riled up in Fort Worth. 704 00:42:39,344 --> 00:42:58,500 [Devilwalk] fort worth in texas i think this one this one people liked yeah 705 00:42:44,827 --> 00:42:57,876 [BanKs] um all right so that we'll go from phase now into the other third fourth place team game legion game legion's run is legit by the way and they were vrs like i don't know they were vrs 22 before this 706 00:42:58,226 --> 00:43:01,902 [BanKs] Now they're going to be up at 13th, so this is going to help them going forward. 707 00:43:01,943 --> 00:43:07,224 [BanKs] Obviously, a lot will change after major stuff as well, so there'll be a lot more up and downs. 708 00:43:08,132 --> 00:43:11,338 [BanKs] For Gamer Legion, you only lost to Na'Vi and Vitality. 709 00:43:11,827 --> 00:43:12,726 [Devilwalk] Thank you. 710 00:43:11,898 --> 00:43:16,166 [BanKs] Now, against Na'Vi, you had a little bit of a chance on Mirage, but then you got dominated. 711 00:43:16,547 --> 00:43:18,550 [BanKs] And against Vitality, you even took them to overtime. 712 00:43:18,590 --> 00:43:23,056 [BanKs] So there's some respect to be earned there, but obviously Vitality stuff we'll come on to later. 713 00:43:23,358 --> 00:43:25,119 [BanKs] You beat FURIA and you beat Astralis. 714 00:43:25,541 --> 00:43:26,782 [BanKs] Being FURIA... 715 00:43:26,762 --> 00:43:27,865 [BanKs] That's fucking impressive. 716 00:43:27,885 --> 00:43:28,407 [BanKs] I'll take that. 717 00:43:28,909 --> 00:43:30,413 [BanKs] Being Astralis is really good as well. 718 00:43:31,976 --> 00:43:34,925 [BanKs] I don't have much negative to say about these guys. 719 00:43:32,027 --> 00:43:32,371 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 720 00:43:35,847 --> 00:43:38,494 [BanKs] But is that just because I have my expectations so low on them? 721 00:43:40,567 --> 00:43:45,914 [Devilwalk] I mean, for me, you know, I remember this Gamer Legion side. 722 00:43:45,994 --> 00:43:51,244 [Devilwalk] When they got Hypex, I felt like they finally kind of got all their players. 723 00:43:49,898 --> 00:43:50,701 [BanKs] Finally an oppa. 724 00:43:51,603 --> 00:43:53,487 [Devilwalk] Finally an AWPer they can play with. 725 00:43:52,748 --> 00:43:52,949 [BanKs] Yeah. 726 00:43:53,646 --> 00:43:57,293 [Devilwalk] They got everything kind of meshed together in the right way. 727 00:43:57,184 --> 00:43:57,344 [BanKs] Mm-hmm. 728 00:43:57,273 --> 00:44:02,070 [Devilwalk] And obviously Ashe kind of burned out and the team kind of took a drop from there. 729 00:44:00,536 --> 00:44:00,938 [BanKs] Yeah. 730 00:44:02,110 --> 00:44:05,443 [Devilwalk] But this is where I've kind of seen them 731 00:44:06,536 --> 00:44:22,335 [Devilwalk] for a while where they should be they should be like a top 10 to 15 in the world they should be every once in a while in these tournaments making problems for some of the big teams they have such a young exciting squad 732 00:44:22,315 --> 00:44:26,501 [Devilwalk] And with Snacks leading it, it's just getting more exciting. 733 00:44:26,521 --> 00:44:31,728 [Devilwalk] Because even though he's an in-game leader, that man has X-Factor in him. 734 00:44:31,427 --> 00:44:43,766 [BanKs] yeah mm-hmm 735 00:44:32,250 --> 00:44:35,054 [Devilwalk] He radiates X-Factor. 736 00:44:36,155 --> 00:44:38,940 [Devilwalk] Even though he can be like... 737 00:44:39,190 --> 00:44:47,405 [Devilwalk] you know, a badly performing player on the scoreboard, so to speak, he still has those crazy moments. 738 00:44:47,525 --> 00:44:50,130 [Devilwalk] He still has that snacksiness in it. 739 00:44:50,885 --> 00:44:52,088 [BanKs] Definitely, definitely. 740 00:44:52,248 --> 00:44:58,884 [BanKs] You mentioned Hypex though, and I'm not going to discredit him of having like, he was the worst performing player for Game of Legion. 741 00:44:54,237 --> 00:44:54,398 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 742 00:44:59,445 --> 00:45:01,389 [BanKs] He might have been the worst performing player in the playoffs. 743 00:45:00,806 --> 00:45:09,400 [Devilwalk] It's a good game against furia 744 00:45:01,409 --> 00:45:02,713 [BanKs] Yeah, he was the worst. 745 00:45:02,733 --> 00:45:04,436 [BanKs] Oh, Ryo was worse than him by 0.1. 746 00:45:05,157 --> 00:45:08,927 [BanKs] So he was one of the worst rated performers in the playoff side. 747 00:45:10,257 --> 00:45:11,650 [BanKs] Yeah, at the very beginning in groups. 748 00:45:12,681 --> 00:45:13,652 [BanKs] But my thing is... 749 00:45:15,251 --> 00:45:18,177 [BanKs] I feel like the right pieces are together on this. 750 00:45:18,516 --> 00:45:22,443 [BanKs] It's just about understanding how to play off each other. 751 00:45:23,164 --> 00:45:25,768 [BanKs] Because there's moments where I just see glimpses from everyone. 752 00:45:26,188 --> 00:45:27,851 [BanKs] Towson had that crazy play. 753 00:45:27,871 --> 00:45:33,159 [BanKs] I think it was an ace in the end, right, against... Who was it, the ace against that Towson had? 754 00:45:32,954 --> 00:45:34,097 [Devilwalk] It was overpass or what? 755 00:45:34,677 --> 00:45:34,818 [Devilwalk] No? 756 00:45:34,860 --> 00:45:37,668 [BanKs] I remember Inferno. 757 00:45:36,501 --> 00:45:37,523 [Devilwalk] I think it's something else. 758 00:45:37,849 --> 00:45:38,731 [BanKs] I remember Inferno. 759 00:45:40,471 --> 00:45:42,074 [Devilwalk] It was PR I was thinking about. 760 00:45:42,094 --> 00:45:50,152 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 761 00:45:43,643 --> 00:45:47,733 [BanKs] But Towson, Towson had, anyway, Towson had a, maybe it was against Fury. 762 00:45:47,813 --> 00:45:48,496 [BanKs] Maybe it was against Fury. 763 00:45:48,516 --> 00:45:48,936 [BanKs] Let me see. 764 00:45:49,458 --> 00:45:51,603 [BanKs] Yeah, Towson ace with 1v4 clutch. 765 00:45:52,327 --> 00:45:53,108 [BanKs] And that was on Inferno. 766 00:45:53,650 --> 00:45:54,552 [BanKs] And they even lost the map. 767 00:45:54,572 --> 00:46:01,106 [BanKs] But there's so many good moments that you see from the individual players at different times. 768 00:46:01,226 --> 00:46:04,934 [BanKs] So if it can all come together, then there's something they can work within there. 769 00:46:05,202 --> 00:46:07,387 [BanKs] They've got the stability now of the same five players. 770 00:46:05,623 --> 00:46:23,987 [Devilwalk] They do? 771 00:46:07,407 --> 00:46:08,949 [BanKs] They've got the stability of the coach now. 772 00:46:08,989 --> 00:46:11,315 [BanKs] They know that Ashe isn't coming back. 773 00:46:11,355 --> 00:46:16,304 [BanKs] This is now something to build upon on the right game plan, the right vision of how they want to be. 774 00:46:17,668 --> 00:46:18,730 [BanKs] Still don't like the new logo. 775 00:46:18,889 --> 00:46:19,751 [BanKs] Go back to the old one. 776 00:46:19,731 --> 00:46:22,518 [BanKs] They've also got the old logo and the new logo on the jersey, which bothers me. 777 00:46:23,059 --> 00:46:24,282 [BanKs] And obviously there's all that. 778 00:46:24,302 --> 00:46:27,548 [BanKs] Yeah, there's the new logos like up here and the old logos here. 779 00:46:27,172 --> 00:46:29,077 [Devilwalk] I'm gonna look at some galleries here. 780 00:46:29,032 --> 00:46:30,556 [BanKs] Yeah, look at this. 781 00:46:29,418 --> 00:46:29,699 [Devilwalk] Wait. 782 00:46:30,675 --> 00:46:31,898 [BanKs] It's got awful. 783 00:46:31,918 --> 00:46:33,623 [BanKs] Like why would you put two logos together? 784 00:46:34,952 --> 00:46:39,960 [BanKs] It feels like they just ran out of sponsors and maybe with the recent drama, they won't be getting any sponsors, but it doesn't make sense. 785 00:46:40,822 --> 00:46:41,344 [BanKs] You see it now? 786 00:46:42,068 --> 00:46:43,190 [Devilwalk] Oh, they do! 787 00:46:43,286 --> 00:46:44,409 [BanKs] Yeah, it's kind of weird, huh? 788 00:46:44,748 --> 00:46:48,996 [BanKs] You wouldn't really have to do the new logo and the old logo. 789 00:46:46,916 --> 00:46:49,302 [Devilwalk] I still, I don't like this logo. 790 00:46:49,016 --> 00:46:54,666 [BanKs] I said rock band, yeah. 791 00:46:49,623 --> 00:46:55,737 [Devilwalk] To me, this just looks like either a metal band or Diablo. 792 00:46:55,757 --> 00:46:58,164 [Devilwalk] It just looks like a Diablo logo. 793 00:46:56,181 --> 00:47:14,460 [BanKs] the worst thing we can criticize is how stuff is going on behind that's nothing to do with the team right some of the dodgy stuff that came out in the news and then the logo and the jersey stuff like that's the worst things we can say about these guys right now yep 794 00:46:58,224 --> 00:46:58,985 [Devilwalk] If I just... 795 00:47:06,373 --> 00:47:20,641 [Devilwalk] This this is the juicy stuff No, but they're a young exciting team and I'm sure some of these players we are going to see big teams Not too far of a future. 796 00:47:21,072 --> 00:47:22,155 [BanKs] But that's what I wanted to ask you. 797 00:47:21,222 --> 00:47:21,784 [Devilwalk] I 798 00:47:22,635 --> 00:47:25,161 [BanKs] So do you just see this now going to be a feeding team again? 799 00:47:25,594 --> 00:47:43,030 [Devilwalk] 100% I mean it all depends so the only way they don't become a feeding team is if they make the same journey the 800 00:47:27,208 --> 00:47:28,371 [BanKs] So PR still the next to go? 801 00:47:28,510 --> 00:47:29,875 [BanKs] Or does Rez get another shot? 802 00:47:30,275 --> 00:47:31,177 [BanKs] Rez is how old now? 803 00:47:31,217 --> 00:47:37,072 [BanKs] He is 28. 804 00:47:43,010 --> 00:47:51,353 [Devilwalk] Gambit youngsters, the foot of this world where they make a meteoric rise from this position. 805 00:47:46,485 --> 00:47:52,175 [BanKs] Okay. 806 00:47:51,614 --> 00:47:53,659 [Devilwalk] I don't see that happening with GamerLegion. 807 00:47:52,195 --> 00:47:54,559 [BanKs] Yeah. 808 00:47:53,739 --> 00:47:57,289 [Devilwalk] I don't see them being like a top five team this year. 809 00:47:57,268 --> 00:48:02,784 [Devilwalk] And all of a sudden, you know, being one of the most scary teams to play against. 810 00:48:02,945 --> 00:48:04,929 [Devilwalk] I still think they can do damage. 811 00:48:03,713 --> 00:48:03,853 [BanKs] Mm-hmm. 812 00:48:06,494 --> 00:48:08,259 [Devilwalk] And I think they can beat some top teams. 813 00:48:08,878 --> 00:48:14,172 [BanKs] Yep. 814 00:48:09,282 --> 00:48:12,931 [Devilwalk] But I don't see them making that straight up jump. 815 00:48:14,193 --> 00:48:14,835 [BanKs] Fair. 816 00:48:14,855 --> 00:48:15,416 [BanKs] Fair, fair, fair. 817 00:48:16,358 --> 00:48:18,083 [BanKs] All right, and then we come on to second place. 818 00:48:18,344 --> 00:48:21,032 [BanKs] Na'Vi, once again, silver medals in hand. 819 00:48:21,130 --> 00:48:35,307 [BanKs] actually there's no medals at blast but silver trophy whatever silver place second place they beat phase they beat game lesion they beat phase again and then they get three zeroed against vitality i'm still very positive 820 00:48:26,074 --> 00:48:26,302 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 821 00:48:35,422 --> 00:48:47,829 [BanKs] around wonderful mikazi the individuals people stepping up like emma even had a good tournament despite what people want to say bit is actually still kind of on the cusp obviously within his role 822 00:48:47,809 --> 00:48:49,893 [BanKs] but just he's not at the heights of what he used to be. 823 00:48:49,934 --> 00:48:52,340 [BanKs] Na'Vi are so close. 824 00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:53,681 [BanKs] They are so close. 825 00:48:53,702 --> 00:48:58,431 [BanKs] If we just don't look at the fact that they can't win a map, they're still breaking in some moments. 826 00:48:53,733 --> 00:48:57,786 [Devilwalk] Thank you. 827 00:48:58,652 --> 00:49:04,485 [BanKs] They actually mentally held their ground better than I expected after losing the first map, considering they had that map in their hands. 828 00:49:03,351 --> 00:49:15,117 [Devilwalk] I thought it was screwed after that map honestly like it's such a it's such a blunder and such an opportunity and I can almost feel them 829 00:49:05,409 --> 00:49:13,201 [BanKs] Yeah, I... I know. 830 00:49:15,097 --> 00:49:33,628 [Devilwalk] As I was watching, I was watching Wonderful after the game, and it was just like... He's still shell-shocked at what just transpired. 831 00:49:18,949 --> 00:49:22,675 [BanKs] Yeah. 832 00:49:22,695 --> 00:49:22,795 [BanKs] Yeah. 833 00:49:25,423 --> 00:49:27,106 [BanKs] And it just got worse, right? 834 00:49:27,126 --> 00:49:29,228 [BanKs] So do you know how many clutches were in this game, by the way? 835 00:49:29,289 --> 00:49:31,672 [BanKs] To put this in there, there was Nuke. 836 00:49:32,132 --> 00:49:34,416 [BanKs] Four clutches each side, so eight clutches total. 837 00:49:34,797 --> 00:49:41,344 [BanKs] Obviously, Na'Vi winning the majority in the beginning part of the game, and then Vitality winning the second part of the game into overtime, which Na'Vi didn't stand a chance in. 838 00:49:35,751 --> 00:49:42,554 [Devilwalk] It was 11 Vitality ones. 839 00:49:42,806 --> 00:49:44,849 [BanKs] Then there was four... 840 00:49:45,050 --> 00:50:03,885 [BanKs] in anubis but three were in favor of vitality so really navi should have had a chance of taking that anubis and then we get to dust two and it's just four for vitality none for navi and people can say oh navi is so bad bro so many teams have been already three zeroed or 841 00:50:03,864 --> 00:50:22,143 [BanKs] three wand or whatever been dominated by nav by vitality over and over again like we are witnessing the greatest team in counter-strike history right now um navi are close and navi are playing better i actually saw blade cheering and smiling i was like okay we're cooking and 842 00:50:13,737 --> 00:50:23,240 [Devilwalk] That was when it was like 10-0 up on... 843 00:50:23,052 --> 00:50:26,260 [BanKs] Yeah, yeah, you know, you would be. 844 00:50:26,420 --> 00:50:27,885 [BanKs] If you're in his situation, you would be. 845 00:50:28,226 --> 00:50:30,010 [BanKs] Probably the comms were flowing so well. 846 00:50:31,375 --> 00:50:37,972 [BanKs] But what I'll look at this is, before we were so praising McCarthy, and obviously the fact he was doing better and better, 847 00:50:36,130 --> 00:50:40,588 [Devilwalk] Thank you. 848 00:50:37,952 --> 00:50:40,056 [BanKs] But we need to start giving Wonderful some credit as well. 849 00:50:40,438 --> 00:50:45,527 [BanKs] He's still having some of these moments where he loses it a bit or he struggles in clutches, which he's always done. 850 00:50:45,586 --> 00:50:50,476 [BanKs] But he's becoming back to that beast level we saw at Budapest. 851 00:50:50,496 --> 00:50:51,498 [BanKs] That's what I'm starting to see again. 852 00:50:51,538 --> 00:50:52,780 [BanKs] That's being found. 853 00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:54,443 [BanKs] Something they can rely on. 854 00:50:53,427 --> 00:51:06,052 [Devilwalk] I think Na'Vi needs a major every three months so Wonderful wakes up in that span and it just continues the whole year. 855 00:51:02,454 --> 00:51:04,001 [BanKs] So you need four majors a year, yeah? 856 00:51:06,112 --> 00:51:09,900 [Devilwalk] Because I feel like that's kind of Wonderful, right? 857 00:51:10,731 --> 00:51:10,913 [BanKs] Mm-hmm. 858 00:51:11,922 --> 00:51:15,170 [Devilwalk] Coming up to the Major, that's when Wonderful awakens. 859 00:51:15,251 --> 00:51:18,561 [Devilwalk] That's when he shows his best work. 860 00:51:19,003 --> 00:51:25,661 [Devilwalk] But yeah, I think overall for Na'Vi, this was probably the best tournament I've seen from them. 861 00:51:26,974 --> 00:51:33,065 [Devilwalk] I think they were really unlucky in this game to not pick up obviously Nuke. 862 00:51:33,144 --> 00:51:35,068 [Devilwalk] I thought they had a great chance on Anubis. 863 00:51:33,556 --> 00:51:44,898 [BanKs] No. 864 00:51:35,128 --> 00:51:40,777 [Devilwalk] I felt like they fought back in a way, you know, in the mid-run. 865 00:51:40,797 --> 00:51:44,021 [Devilwalk] Because if we look at Anubis, they didn't really start their way. 866 00:51:45,605 --> 00:51:49,853 [Devilwalk] It was like 5-1 or something for Vitality. 867 00:51:50,394 --> 00:51:51,456 [Devilwalk] They were on the T side. 868 00:51:52,059 --> 00:51:58,331 [Devilwalk] To climb back and bring five rounds back in a row on CT side Anubis, that's not very easy. 869 00:52:00,775 --> 00:52:09,195 [Devilwalk] So for me, I think there's more ingredients to Na'Vi right now instead of in previous tournaments it's been Makasa only. 870 00:52:09,215 --> 00:52:15,291 [Devilwalk] And now we're starting to see the entire team kind of 871 00:52:09,887 --> 00:52:10,197 [BanKs] Yeah. 872 00:52:16,164 --> 00:52:33,987 [Devilwalk] level up a little bit where we see bit in wonderful all having great games i mean i think alexa b always like positionally he's really really good this vitality game wasn't really his game but it still has impact yeah yeah 873 00:52:31,048 --> 00:52:33,411 [BanKs] He had some highlights on Nuke at the beginning half. 874 00:52:33,753 --> 00:52:35,389 [BanKs] He had some highlight individual holes. 875 00:52:36,112 --> 00:52:39,744 [Devilwalk] But I think it was one of the better playing Navis I've seen. 876 00:52:39,786 --> 00:52:46,931 [Devilwalk] And for me, just every time I watch them, it feels like they have taken... 877 00:52:46,911 --> 00:52:58,490 [Devilwalk] a step in the right direction they have taken you know one inch closer towards vitality I feel like they're playing a little bit of catch up and catching up a little bit 878 00:52:55,045 --> 00:53:11,605 [BanKs] Yeah. 879 00:52:58,471 --> 00:53:12,514 [Devilwalk] obviously there's still a huge gap it's not like you know we can talk about Vitality's excuses that they didn't practice and all that they're still the best team in the world um 880 00:53:11,625 --> 00:53:11,804 [BanKs] Yeah. 881 00:53:13,978 --> 00:53:19,427 [Devilwalk] And I'm sad Na'Vi didn't win a map because I think they actually deserved it in this series. 882 00:53:20,543 --> 00:53:23,168 [BanKs] Yeah, more so than previously when we saw in Rotterdam, right? 883 00:53:22,893 --> 00:53:23,092 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 884 00:53:23,248 --> 00:53:24,530 [BanKs] There was more of a fight in it. 885 00:53:24,951 --> 00:53:26,373 [BanKs] There was them taking control of games. 886 00:53:26,393 --> 00:53:27,394 [BanKs] There was them coming. 887 00:53:27,695 --> 00:53:35,969 [BanKs] The fact for me that they were so far down on Anubis and they came back into the game showed such a positive turnaround for Na'Vi, which was not there of old. 888 00:53:31,326 --> 00:53:31,525 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 889 00:53:32,288 --> 00:53:33,168 [Devilwalk] That's a big one. 890 00:53:36,570 --> 00:53:38,233 [BanKs] That was not what they were capable of doing. 891 00:53:38,554 --> 00:53:39,074 [BanKs] And... 892 00:53:39,038 --> 00:53:59,021 [Devilwalk] Yeah, 100%. 893 00:53:40,338 --> 00:53:44,528 [BanKs] I can't ever say they deserve to get a map, because that's the ultimate fanboy in me. 894 00:53:44,849 --> 00:53:46,894 [BanKs] But it's like they played like they could get a map. 895 00:53:46,916 --> 00:53:49,161 [BanKs] Actually, it looks like it's possible. 896 00:53:49,222 --> 00:53:50,786 [BanKs] It looked like it was something we could believe in. 897 00:53:50,826 --> 00:53:55,478 [BanKs] Ultimately, it didn't go that way, and that's what will be seen at the end of it all. 898 00:53:56,019 --> 00:53:56,862 [BanKs] And... 899 00:53:56,842 --> 00:54:12,909 [BanKs] i don't want to just push on like mikazi we speak so positively about right but he struggles against vitality if you look down the numbers he has against vitality his style of play his way of playing doesn't work it works against all the other teams they're playing right now yeah 900 00:54:12,889 --> 00:54:20,369 [BanKs] So he has to, same as his Inferno learning, he has to individually learn some of that as well because you're never going to get to play Ancient against Vitality. 901 00:54:21,070 --> 00:54:25,262 [BanKs] So you best find out another way of doing it, you know? 902 00:54:25,242 --> 00:54:40,786 [BanKs] you best find another way of of finding some individual success against them because if you do have that he played a phenomenal on an ubis but imagine if he played up to the normal mikazi levels on nuke they would 100 have secured that map and bit 903 00:54:40,007 --> 00:54:42,715 [Devilwalk] But isn't that just playing the best team in the world? 904 00:54:42,735 --> 00:54:53,320 [Devilwalk] I mean... Is it really him playing bad, but just having Ropz, Flamese, Messi, Saevu kind of in your crosshairs? 905 00:54:44,277 --> 00:54:46,581 [BanKs] Okay, but then there's the other side of it. 906 00:54:53,780 --> 00:54:55,865 [Devilwalk] He gets one and dies instantly? 907 00:54:53,932 --> 00:54:57,900 [BanKs] But he was losing to Apex in so many duels. 908 00:54:56,007 --> 00:54:56,547 [Devilwalk] That's... 909 00:54:57,920 --> 00:54:58,800 [BanKs] Go look at the head-to-head. 910 00:54:58,704 --> 00:55:00,188 [Devilwalk] Apex ain't bad, man. 911 00:55:00,509 --> 00:55:06,483 [Devilwalk] He's like, he's one of the hardest hitting people right now. 912 00:55:01,365 --> 00:55:03,349 [BanKs] He's not bad. 913 00:55:03,463 --> 00:55:10,639 [BanKs] But... But Mukazi, if he... Yeah. 914 00:55:06,503 --> 00:55:09,791 [Devilwalk] I saw a post about Apex. 915 00:55:09,831 --> 00:55:13,338 [Devilwalk] He had like a 130 rating the last three months on CT sites. 916 00:55:13,672 --> 00:55:14,436 [BanKs] Oh, he's back again. 917 00:55:14,476 --> 00:55:15,378 [BanKs] He's back again. 918 00:55:15,438 --> 00:55:17,525 [BanKs] But this is on T-Side, by the way. 919 00:55:17,545 --> 00:55:18,829 [BanKs] He was also doing this. 920 00:55:19,271 --> 00:55:25,893 [BanKs] He was hammering Mikazi because it felt like... So, for example, Mikazi would do like a smoke spam on Yard, yeah? 921 00:55:25,755 --> 00:55:44,929 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 922 00:55:25,873 --> 00:55:31,182 [BanKs] And then Apex will just play the timing perfectly and he's kind of in the open or reloading in the open. 923 00:55:31,583 --> 00:55:38,655 [BanKs] Or then there'd be a smoke and the moment that Mikazi is expecting him to come from one side, it'll poke out another. 924 00:55:38,775 --> 00:55:41,599 [BanKs] It's just he needs to learn to be a bit more aware. 925 00:55:41,619 --> 00:55:45,485 [BanKs] That's why I gave the Inferno example of just getting used to that. 926 00:55:45,465 --> 00:55:47,791 [BanKs] Because it felt like they always had his number. 927 00:55:48,994 --> 00:55:54,789 [BanKs] On Anubis, I don't know what he ended the stats with on Anubis, because he was top fragging for the server. 928 00:55:55,952 --> 00:55:56,893 [BanKs] He did incredibly well. 929 00:55:56,755 --> 00:56:01,246 [Devilwalk] Thank you. 930 00:55:57,335 --> 00:56:00,623 [BanKs] But the other person I've got to point out is B1t. 931 00:56:00,603 --> 00:56:12,333 [BanKs] now bit doesn't have the most glorious roles yeah but the bit of old was so dominant the bit of old was the headshot machine be able to lock it down time and time again and i know yeah 932 00:56:11,639 --> 00:56:16,856 [Devilwalk] You sound like an old Manchester United fan thinking about the glory days. 933 00:56:16,887 --> 00:56:31,268 [BanKs] but he's still so young bro he's 23 and his overall ratings at events is not bad right he's always in the green but i don't know i don't know if it's mentality i don't know if he just falls down sometimes 934 00:56:32,311 --> 00:56:35,443 [BanKs] But I just, it's what you know these people are capable of. 935 00:56:35,664 --> 00:56:36,608 [BanKs] Maybe I'm being too harsh. 936 00:56:36,668 --> 00:56:42,050 [BanKs] Maybe it's just a Na'vi fan in me, but those little inches would have given us the map. 937 00:56:39,871 --> 00:56:40,514 [Devilwalk] It's 100%. 938 00:56:40,693 --> 00:56:43,485 [Devilwalk] It's 100% you're Na'Vi fan right now. 939 00:56:44,027 --> 00:56:50,572 [Devilwalk] I'm just going to let you do it, but it is 100%. 940 00:56:48,409 --> 00:56:48,932 [BanKs] You know what? 941 00:56:49,516 --> 00:56:51,847 [BanKs] I'm just hurting, man. 942 00:56:50,552 --> 00:56:52,277 [Devilwalk] the Na'Vi fanboy right now. 943 00:56:52,831 --> 00:56:53,998 [BanKs] I'm hurting, man. 944 00:56:53,000 --> 00:57:01,844 [Devilwalk] It's like, oh, if we just had Bit from 2022, then we would have taken both Nuke and Nubis. 945 00:57:01,994 --> 00:57:15,565 [BanKs] I'll say this right I had to watch Na'vi lose and my son peed on me at the same time it was just a bad time it was a bad time everything all at once they are bonding experiences but 946 00:57:10,786 --> 00:57:30,599 [Devilwalk] Bonding experience. 947 00:57:15,545 --> 00:57:35,275 [BanKs] navi is definitely the second best team in the world but it's going to get more interesting when we see them in a field where the falcons and the spirits and the mouses are there as well right because that was the case in rio it was different story in rio though right because they didn't meet any of them so they yeah they didn't meet any of the top dogs there they only lost to vitality and furia 948 00:57:35,255 --> 00:57:37,385 [BanKs] And vice versa, it was just the first playoff game they had. 949 00:57:37,465 --> 00:57:43,695 [BanKs] So the next event they'll have where they'll actually link up will be the Major. 950 00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:45,704 [BanKs] where they have the chance to go against the big team. 951 00:57:44,079 --> 00:57:44,371 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 952 00:57:45,724 --> 00:57:57,869 [BanKs] So that's also Na'Vi needing to be ready for those kind of guys again, because we're in this weird world of how TOs are and teams going to different events, where Astana, Atlanta, this event, you know, people are skipping because of the American events. 953 00:57:56,686 --> 00:57:58,110 [Devilwalk] But it makes it more exciting. 954 00:57:58,291 --> 00:58:01,039 [Devilwalk] I swear to you, it makes it more exciting. 955 00:58:01,539 --> 00:58:04,088 [Devilwalk] Because now I'm just like, oh, Falcons wasn't here. 956 00:58:04,128 --> 00:58:07,336 [Devilwalk] Their next event, when are they going to play? 957 00:58:04,599 --> 00:58:07,759 [BanKs] Yeah, yeah, yeah. 958 00:58:07,317 --> 00:58:10,461 [Devilwalk] You get these storylines where I actually get excited. 959 00:58:07,780 --> 00:58:09,510 [BanKs] Mate, Astana. 960 00:58:10,481 --> 00:58:14,548 [Devilwalk] I get awoken, whereas a fan, I need to check this tournament out. 961 00:58:10,958 --> 00:58:11,623 [BanKs] Yeah. 962 00:58:15,230 --> 00:58:19,016 [Devilwalk] Before it was just like, I don't know, this was a random round. 963 00:58:18,876 --> 00:58:19,938 [BanKs] Everyone's going again. 964 00:58:19,117 --> 00:58:23,023 [Devilwalk] But yeah, it's just like, same old, same old. 965 00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:20,721 [BanKs] Yeah. 966 00:58:22,023 --> 00:58:25,532 [BanKs] It's like same 16, same, same, just different tournament name, you know. 967 00:58:23,664 --> 00:58:24,025 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 968 00:58:25,626 --> 00:58:26,068 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 969 00:58:25,992 --> 00:58:30,202 [BanKs] It doesn't matter if it was ESL Blast or if it was PGL. 970 00:58:29,085 --> 00:58:43,347 [Devilwalk] I like this, I like this 971 00:58:30,182 --> 00:58:50,199 [BanKs] um so let's go on to the inevitable the dominant it's not even close we can't glaze them any further they are on their fifth tournament win in a row once again um the streak is continuing they only fail at bounty so they're staying 972 00:58:50,179 --> 00:58:52,244 [BanKs] Krakow. 973 00:58:50,887 --> 00:58:52,030 [Devilwalk] They still need that one. 974 00:58:52,606 --> 00:58:54,791 [BanKs] Yes, if it's for you, they still need this blast banner. 975 00:58:54,811 --> 00:58:55,592 [BanKs] I don't think they care. 976 00:58:57,036 --> 00:58:59,161 [BanKs] But it's five tournament trophies in a row. 977 00:58:59,181 --> 00:59:01,246 [BanKs] I think I'll say this now. 978 00:59:01,266 --> 00:59:07,581 [BanKs] I think Vitality are going to do better this year than they did in 2025. 979 00:59:09,382 --> 00:59:10,244 [BanKs] Look at your face. 980 00:59:09,514 --> 00:59:10,094 [Devilwalk] You think? 981 00:59:10,626 --> 00:59:17,298 [BanKs] I think because they didn't, and I know you're going to hate this, but they said they didn't practice before this tournament. 982 00:59:17,318 --> 00:59:20,445 [BanKs] Their practice started when they arrived at the event in America, yeah? 983 00:59:20,927 --> 00:59:22,791 [BanKs] And they still handled everyone. 984 00:59:21,144 --> 00:59:22,789 [Devilwalk] Yeah, but why didn't they practice? 985 00:59:23,369 --> 00:59:25,253 [Devilwalk] Why didn't they practice, Banks? 986 00:59:25,376 --> 00:59:26,277 [BanKs] They need to time off. 987 00:59:27,038 --> 00:59:29,364 [Devilwalk] They needed time off. 988 00:59:29,077 --> 00:59:32,708 [BanKs] Yeah, but they're going to, because they're doing so many events, they're winning so much. 989 00:59:29,384 --> 00:59:34,695 [Devilwalk] Because... It's the tired, Banks. 990 00:59:34,755 --> 00:59:35,958 [Devilwalk] They're tired. 991 00:59:35,117 --> 00:59:36,039 [BanKs] Yeah. 992 00:59:36,059 --> 00:59:37,182 [BanKs] But let me just look. 993 00:59:36,420 --> 00:59:39,626 [Devilwalk] They had the same... They had the same... 994 00:59:37,202 --> 00:59:39,166 [BanKs] No, no, no, no, no. 995 00:59:39,327 --> 00:59:40,449 [BanKs] This doesn't work, Devorg. 996 00:59:40,530 --> 00:59:41,251 [BanKs] This doesn't work. 997 00:59:41,331 --> 00:59:42,153 [BanKs] Look at this, right? 998 00:59:42,614 --> 00:59:48,469 [BanKs] They're going to go to Atlanta where it's literally other than Na'Vi, there's no teams there that can be super competitive against them. 999 00:59:48,809 --> 00:59:51,355 [BanKs] So it's an even easier tournament than what they've just entered. 1000 00:59:51,217 --> 00:59:54,510 [Devilwalk] Which makes it harder because they want... 1001 00:59:51,635 --> 00:59:51,896 [BanKs] Yeah. 1002 00:59:53,179 --> 00:59:53,380 [BanKs] Okay. 1003 00:59:55,063 --> 00:59:56,726 [BanKs] Okay, they're going to win Atlanta. 1004 00:59:56,746 --> 00:59:57,688 [BanKs] I'm just putting it out here now. 1005 00:59:57,969 --> 00:59:59,291 [BanKs] They're not going to CAC. 1006 00:59:59,331 --> 01:00:04,358 [BanKs] So then they're off from the 17th of May until the 11th of June. 1007 01:00:06,181 --> 01:00:07,023 [BanKs] Their schedule's fine. 1008 01:00:07,043 --> 01:00:08,806 [BanKs] They won't be tired when it comes to the major, mate. 1009 01:00:09,708 --> 01:00:11,570 [BanKs] Obviously, they need to come back to practice instead of it. 1010 01:00:09,847 --> 01:00:12,891 [Devilwalk] We're talking about a whole year here. 1011 01:00:12,952 --> 01:00:29,121 [Devilwalk] We're not just skipping... I think they're going to win the major too, but to say they're going to have a better year than last year... 1012 01:00:14,639 --> 01:00:16,603 [BanKs] Okay, I'm saying they've mastered the schedule. 1013 01:00:16,682 --> 01:00:17,704 [BanKs] They've mastered the schedule. 1014 01:00:17,724 --> 01:00:18,806 [BanKs] They are going to win Atlanta. 1015 01:00:19,268 --> 01:00:23,737 [BanKs] They are probably going to win the major, unless Falcons and Kerrigan do some magic in there. 1016 01:00:26,161 --> 01:00:26,943 [BanKs] So there we go. 1017 01:00:28,864 --> 01:00:33,574 [BanKs] Remember how bad 2025 second half of the year was until they won the major? 1018 01:00:32,559 --> 01:00:33,983 [Devilwalk] How bad! 1019 01:00:33,793 --> 01:00:34,195 [BanKs] No, no. 1020 01:00:34,215 --> 01:00:37,059 [BanKs] The second half, the second half of that year was, yeah. 1021 01:00:37,621 --> 01:00:40,065 [BanKs] I feel like they'll do better this next time around. 1022 01:00:39,773 --> 01:00:42,940 [Devilwalk] Then the best year in Counter-Strike. 1023 01:00:41,929 --> 01:00:42,469 [BanKs] Exactly. 1024 01:00:42,510 --> 01:00:44,213 [BanKs] I'm feeling it. 1025 01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:43,219 [Devilwalk] Okay. 1026 01:00:44,253 --> 01:00:45,355 [BanKs] I'm feeling it for them, man. 1027 01:00:45,143 --> 01:00:46,326 [Devilwalk] I mean, it's not impossible. 1028 01:00:46,666 --> 01:00:48,190 [Devilwalk] I'm just saying it's unlikely. 1029 01:00:49,925 --> 01:00:50,489 [BanKs] It's going to happen. 1030 01:00:50,954 --> 01:00:52,396 [Devilwalk] All right, let's do it. 1031 01:00:51,978 --> 01:00:52,925 [BanKs] I'm just putting it out there. 1032 01:00:52,985 --> 01:00:55,782 [BanKs] The bank's prediction is thrown out to the wild. 1033 01:00:53,599 --> 01:01:03,342 [Devilwalk] So the Na'Vi fanboy is essentially saying that Na'Vi won't be making any trophies this year from this point onwards. 1034 01:01:06,469 --> 01:01:07,612 [Devilwalk] Is that what you're saying? 1035 01:01:08,047 --> 01:01:08,789 [BanKs] I'll just say this. 1036 01:01:09,351 --> 01:01:10,795 [BanKs] There is a member of Vitality. 1037 01:01:09,635 --> 01:01:10,565 [Devilwalk] Don't say it. 1038 01:01:10,894 --> 01:01:14,103 [BanKs] No, there's a member of Vitality using my mousepad. 1039 01:01:11,092 --> 01:01:11,679 [Devilwalk] Say it. 1040 01:01:14,443 --> 01:01:16,469 [BanKs] There is not a member of Na'Vi using my mousepad. 1041 01:01:17,932 --> 01:01:24,048 [BanKs] Maybe when Vitality... Well, maybe when Messi doesn't use my mousepad and then we'll know. 1042 01:01:25,648 --> 01:01:26,797 [BanKs] I'm on full cope. 1043 01:01:26,817 --> 01:01:31,608 [BanKs] No, I will say, I don't think Na'Vi will, unless Vitality aren't at the tournament, then yeah. 1044 01:01:33,226 --> 01:01:37,472 [BanKs] And by the way, the next half of the year, there's many people skipping tournaments and doing all craziness again. 1045 01:01:34,356 --> 01:01:48,838 [Devilwalk] All right. 1046 01:01:37,574 --> 01:01:45,407 [BanKs] So there will be that chance for an EPL win for Na'Vi or, I don't know, a smaller event win for Na'Vi, one of the smaller ESL events. 1047 01:01:46,469 --> 01:01:50,255 [BanKs] It's definitely possible. 1048 01:01:50,235 --> 01:01:52,380 [BanKs] So let's look at Vitality's run. 1049 01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:54,505 [BanKs] 2-1 foot, 2-1 G2. 1050 01:01:54,726 --> 01:01:57,914 [BanKs] By the way, definitely could have lost the G2 game as we already touched on. 1051 01:01:58,434 --> 01:01:59,797 [BanKs] But they were just kind of learning. 1052 01:02:00,119 --> 01:02:02,525 [BanKs] So Flamesy said it on the interview at the desk, right? 1053 01:02:02,565 --> 01:02:03,586 [BanKs] That like... 1054 01:02:03,567 --> 01:02:04,969 [BanKs] All this update had happened. 1055 01:02:05,130 --> 01:02:07,213 [BanKs] We spoke to players on the podcast. 1056 01:02:07,295 --> 01:02:10,561 [BanKs] I messaged them and got feedback on the new update, the Animagraph update. 1057 01:02:11,302 --> 01:02:13,728 [BanKs] Flamesy's like, it's not really that big of a change. 1058 01:02:13,768 --> 01:02:15,871 [BanKs] There's some things, but he didn't think it was so huge. 1059 01:02:16,393 --> 01:02:18,757 [BanKs] Obviously, I'm paraphrasing here. 1060 01:02:20,306 --> 01:02:24,755 [BanKs] But they did have to kind of jump back into CS, get used to it again, and they saw some struggles. 1061 01:02:25,135 --> 01:02:28,802 [BanKs] So even with that level of game, they took down foot with a coach, obviously. 1062 01:02:27,411 --> 01:02:27,922 [Devilwalk] Thank you. 1063 01:02:29,744 --> 01:02:31,949 [BanKs] It didn't look as bad as when you look at it this way, right? 1064 01:02:31,989 --> 01:02:34,092 [BanKs] But obviously, they beat them on Mirage. 1065 01:02:34,253 --> 01:02:35,936 [BanKs] They started off... 1066 01:02:35,916 --> 01:02:47,630 [BanKs] really strong on nuke and couldn't finish it at the end they did lose their dust too right two foot um another map of losing of streaks as well but and not not at any point 1067 01:02:48,099 --> 01:02:50,684 [BanKs] Did I feel worried that Vitality wouldn't win the tournament? 1068 01:02:51,206 --> 01:02:52,188 [BanKs] You know, if that makes sense. 1069 01:02:52,228 --> 01:02:52,989 [BanKs] They can drop a map. 1070 01:02:53,309 --> 01:02:54,331 [BanKs] They can come back into games. 1071 01:02:54,632 --> 01:02:58,940 [BanKs] They can be down against Na'Vi like they were in the finals, but they weren't losing. 1072 01:02:59,827 --> 01:03:04,556 [Devilwalk] They were definitely rusty, and you could see, you know... 1073 01:02:59,882 --> 01:03:00,945 [BanKs] This is just where they're at. 1074 01:03:05,565 --> 01:03:16,500 [Devilwalk] you know, Xtas and Apex kind of yelling at the boys, trying to get everyone to get, you know, into more team play and play off each other a little bit more. 1075 01:03:15,639 --> 01:03:16,556 [BanKs] Focused up. 1076 01:03:16,559 --> 01:03:23,028 [Devilwalk] Because there's definitely a situation where they got caught off guard, which was very un-vitality. 1077 01:03:24,150 --> 01:03:25,532 [Devilwalk] Um... 1078 01:03:25,512 --> 01:03:33,362 [Devilwalk] But in the end, they grew from every game and kind of got back into a level they needed to be at. 1079 01:03:34,387 --> 01:03:36,974 [BanKs] Yeah, and it's another ZywOo MVP. 1080 01:03:37,175 --> 01:03:44,976 [BanKs] I do love the ZywOo interview where he said, like, for once, I'll say I robbed my teammates because he said Ropz robbed one from him. 1081 01:03:45,016 --> 01:03:49,630 [BanKs] And then now he robbed one from Ropz because Ropz played so amazing in that final. 1082 01:03:49,610 --> 01:03:52,271 [BanKs] By the way, what was his rating at the end of that final? 1083 01:03:52,311 --> 01:03:54,809 [BanKs] Let me see. 1084 01:03:55,836 --> 01:03:58,443 [BanKs] Because I know Rops was just like the mega carry. 1085 01:03:58,503 --> 01:03:59,425 [BanKs] All those clutches. 1086 01:03:59,445 --> 01:04:01,751 [BanKs] 1-5-5 rating in the final. 1087 01:04:00,882 --> 01:04:02,534 [Devilwalk] Let me see. 1088 01:04:01,771 --> 01:04:02,373 [BanKs] 1-5-5. 1089 01:04:02,393 --> 01:04:04,257 [BanKs] 60 for 39. 1090 01:04:02,554 --> 01:04:02,657 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 1091 01:04:05,119 --> 01:04:06,422 [BanKs] He had so many clutches. 1092 01:04:06,724 --> 01:04:08,106 [BanKs] His 5-7 plays. 1093 01:04:08,228 --> 01:04:09,050 [BanKs] Bro, his 5-7. 1094 01:04:09,230 --> 01:04:10,532 [BanKs] It was wonderful. 1095 01:04:11,054 --> 01:04:12,798 [BanKs] Holding Pillar on B-side. 1096 01:04:13,235 --> 01:04:14,117 [BanKs] It's in a 1v1. 1097 01:04:14,559 --> 01:04:15,601 [BanKs] Wonderful's got the AK. 1098 01:04:15,942 --> 01:04:22,942 [BanKs] This is a round on Anubis that probably would have secured the map for or given them a fighting chance in the map because nothing's secured against Vitality. 1099 01:04:23,543 --> 01:04:27,393 [BanKs] It was just the perfect two shots and finished him off with that 5-7. 1100 01:04:27,775 --> 01:04:28,898 [BanKs] Rops read it perfectly. 1101 01:04:29,452 --> 01:04:31,297 [Devilwalk] It's kind of weird that Ropz didn't win it. 1102 01:04:32,184 --> 01:04:32,847 [BanKs] Rupps did win it. 1103 01:04:34,193 --> 01:04:35,177 [BanKs] Oh, I thought you meant the clutch. 1104 01:04:35,197 --> 01:04:36,121 [BanKs] You meant the MVP. 1105 01:04:36,489 --> 01:04:37,050 [Devilwalk] The MVP. 1106 01:04:38,153 --> 01:04:42,925 [Devilwalk] Because wasn't the last tournament, like, Saivuu because of his great final? 1107 01:04:38,371 --> 01:04:40,963 [BanKs] So... I... 1108 01:04:43,762 --> 01:04:44,143 [BanKs] Yes. 1109 01:04:45,304 --> 01:04:47,088 [BanKs] Let's compare the difference. 1110 01:04:45,331 --> 01:04:45,432 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 1111 01:04:45,452 --> 01:04:45,552 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 1112 01:04:47,268 --> 01:04:57,565 [BanKs] ROPS had a 1.16 for ROPS, but an insane final, and then a 1.34 for ZywOo. 1113 01:04:48,081 --> 01:04:49,246 [Devilwalk] Complair. 1114 01:04:57,826 --> 01:05:01,010 [BanKs] The difference is substantial. 1115 01:05:00,300 --> 01:05:00,420 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 1116 01:05:00,990 --> 01:05:02,393 [BanKs] Zyra also had a good final. 1117 01:05:02,793 --> 01:05:04,336 [BanKs] Flames is in the middle of these two, by the way. 1118 01:05:04,358 --> 01:05:09,427 [BanKs] 1.21 rating across all of it, but obviously didn't have such the impact on the final. 1119 01:05:09,411 --> 01:05:24,922 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 1120 01:05:09,907 --> 01:05:10,849 [BanKs] What event was this at? 1121 01:05:10,889 --> 01:05:16,501 [BanKs] It was at Rotterdam, right, where we last had this up in arms confusion about it all. 1122 01:05:17,222 --> 01:05:19,606 [BanKs] So if I now go to Rotterdam... 1123 01:05:19,586 --> 01:05:38,894 [BanKs] rotterdam it was again against navi drops was 1.56 zaira was 1.22 this is final drops was 1.55 zara was 1.29 but if you go to rotterdam and you look down how actually close it was 1124 01:05:34,284 --> 01:05:51,365 [Devilwalk] yeah. 1125 01:05:39,213 --> 01:05:41,717 [BanKs] Zyra is 147, but Ropz is 132. 1126 01:05:42,097 --> 01:05:44,523 [BanKs] So what's that? 1127 01:05:44,543 --> 01:05:49,351 [BanKs] A 0.15 difference? 1128 01:05:50,132 --> 01:05:50,313 [BanKs] Yeah. 1129 01:05:52,336 --> 01:05:58,909 [BanKs] And then the overall difference in rivals was a... Yeah, it's too high. 1130 01:05:54,349 --> 01:06:13,083 [Devilwalk] yeah I guess 128 what are these numbers man 1131 01:06:01,353 --> 01:06:19,681 [BanKs] yeah it's like a one one two eight i don't know the money to work sound the ratings so where is that 1132 01:06:14,735 --> 01:06:15,639 [Devilwalk] Yeah, I understand. 1133 01:06:17,025 --> 01:06:19,518 [Devilwalk] But why are you saying 1, 2, 8? 1134 01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:20,623 [Devilwalk] What's the difference? 1135 01:06:20,643 --> 01:06:23,378 [Devilwalk] 18. 1136 01:06:21,264 --> 01:06:22,887 [BanKs] The difference is 0.18. 1137 01:06:23,028 --> 01:06:24,291 [BanKs] Yeah, 0.18. 1138 01:06:27,978 --> 01:06:29,302 [BanKs] It's not that huge. 1139 01:06:30,403 --> 01:06:33,150 [BanKs] Bro, I can't work out HLTV's numbers with this. 1140 01:06:33,710 --> 01:06:34,393 [BanKs] I can't at all. 1141 01:06:33,954 --> 01:06:34,456 [Devilwalk] I don't know. 1142 01:06:34,536 --> 01:06:38,690 [Devilwalk] I thought from the last one, the finals were more important than the group stage. 1143 01:06:38,300 --> 01:06:38,802 [BanKs] Yeah. 1144 01:06:38,751 --> 01:06:40,556 [Devilwalk] It didn't really matter that much. 1145 01:06:40,577 --> 01:06:46,175 [Devilwalk] So in my head, I just see it like it doesn't matter if Rob says a bad group stage. 1146 01:06:48,856 --> 01:07:00,552 [Devilwalk] Because it won't count as badly as a good rating and a good group stage, if that makes sense. 1147 01:06:49,918 --> 01:06:58,918 [BanKs] The one that Rops won, he was 0.15 behind. 1148 01:06:58,978 --> 01:07:00,760 [BanKs] This time he was 0.18 behind. 1149 01:07:01,663 --> 01:07:02,605 [BanKs] How was his other matches? 1150 01:07:02,644 --> 01:07:05,030 [BanKs] How was Rops' other matches in playoffs as well? 1151 01:07:05,471 --> 01:07:07,775 [BanKs] Because you need to look at all his playoff matches, right? 1152 01:07:07,469 --> 01:07:08,911 [Devilwalk] Playoffs are the most important. 1153 01:07:09,797 --> 01:07:13,003 [BanKs] So he did really well against game leads in 1.21, 1.36. 1154 01:07:13,264 --> 01:07:13,625 [BanKs] He did. 1155 01:07:13,664 --> 01:07:15,027 [BanKs] That's it. 1156 01:07:15,047 --> 01:07:16,990 [BanKs] That's all his playoff matches. 1157 01:07:16,985 --> 01:07:17,226 [Devilwalk] Ah, yeah. 1158 01:07:17,507 --> 01:07:17,967 [Devilwalk] That's true. 1159 01:07:17,791 --> 01:07:22,501 [BanKs] So he did have some bad games against G2 and some bad games against foot in group stage. 1160 01:07:24,780 --> 01:07:24,920 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 1161 01:07:26,014 --> 01:07:27,219 [Devilwalk] Whatever. 1162 01:07:26,989 --> 01:07:27,128 [BanKs] Yeah. 1163 01:07:27,740 --> 01:07:34,083 [Devilwalk] I mean, all three of them are the servant of an MVP to some extent, eventually. 1164 01:07:28,391 --> 01:07:28,751 [BanKs] Yeah. 1165 01:07:33,489 --> 01:07:51,650 [BanKs] yeah definitely definitely all right so that is our wrap on everything blast rivals so someone if you are american maybe if you attended the event let us know what you thought of it overall and maybe why it wasn't more packed out um than that considering it is also still three days of like great 1166 01:07:51,630 --> 01:08:03,818 [BanKs] playing great teams but i guess it could be just down to the team list which maybe atlanta will also struggle with in there but atlanta is also inside a dream hack right dream hack 1167 01:08:04,827 --> 01:08:10,219 [BanKs] Yeah, so they benefit from having the DreamHack party at the same time. 1168 01:08:10,740 --> 01:08:13,086 [BanKs] So you'll get more people come in the same way Dallas was. 1169 01:08:13,871 --> 01:08:14,233 [Devilwalk] All right. 1170 01:08:14,048 --> 01:08:16,574 [BanKs] So that's a different thing if you compare it. 1171 01:08:16,740 --> 01:08:20,310 [BanKs] But I will stand by that the American crowds are always normally really good. 1172 01:08:21,032 --> 01:08:21,953 [BanKs] I do enjoy them. 1173 01:08:22,515 --> 01:08:28,069 [BanKs] This one was just very lacking of people and was a bit of a shame, especially considering the new style. 1174 01:08:27,914 --> 01:08:30,057 [Devilwalk] Maybe it was because Furia wasn't in the playoff. 1175 01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:32,742 [BanKs] Not in Brazil, bro. 1176 01:08:33,547 --> 01:08:34,529 [Devilwalk] No, but what do you mean? 1177 01:08:34,590 --> 01:08:40,338 [Devilwalk] It's... You don't think Brazilians pack up American arenas? 1178 01:08:41,006 --> 01:08:50,402 [BanKs] They could, but also, they would have bought the tickets before anyone even knew what was happening. 1179 01:08:42,483 --> 01:08:44,586 [Devilwalk] They're fucking packing up Europe arenas. 1180 01:08:52,578 --> 01:08:53,159 [Devilwalk] Well, that's true. 1181 01:08:54,028 --> 01:08:56,672 [BanKs] Something doesn't add up here. 1182 01:08:56,693 --> 01:08:57,753 [BanKs] Something doesn't add up here. 1183 01:08:57,774 --> 01:08:59,337 [BanKs] If it was just the teams, maybe. 1184 01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:00,175 [Devilwalk] Maybe they just, fuck it. 1185 01:09:00,519 --> 01:09:01,429 [Devilwalk] We're not going now. 1186 01:09:01,443 --> 01:09:08,234 [BanKs] Yeah, maybe it's the fact that both events are so close together, Atlanta and Fort Worth. 1187 01:09:08,314 --> 01:09:13,862 [BanKs] And then obviously Atlanta probably offers more value to a spectator because then you get to go to the DreamHack stuff as well. 1188 01:09:14,443 --> 01:09:18,168 [BanKs] I'm a big fan of the DreamHack ones because when we always used to do Dallas, 1189 01:09:18,149 --> 01:09:29,442 [BanKs] I used to finish work and I'd still be able to go into the exhibition area and there'd be anime stalls, there'd be some street fire going on, some tech and like there was a lot of other stuff we could do, you know, so. 1190 01:09:18,689 --> 01:09:19,216 [Devilwalk] Thank you. 1191 01:09:29,421 --> 01:09:30,465 [BanKs] Maybe that plays a factor. 1192 01:09:30,484 --> 01:09:35,298 [BanKs] Someone can let us know in the comments either way, but we will get on to some of our recent news. 1193 01:09:36,362 --> 01:09:43,161 [BanKs] While all of this was going on, it was already teased, but Valve has released an update with a new cash rework. 1194 01:09:43,140 --> 01:09:44,483 [BanKs] I haven't played any of it, mate. 1195 01:09:44,582 --> 01:09:46,565 [BanKs] So you're going to be the one that has to fill me in here. 1196 01:09:44,862 --> 01:09:56,913 [Devilwalk] Thank you. 1197 01:09:46,926 --> 01:09:50,471 [BanKs] It's obviously only in the competitive, casual, deathmatch, retake modes. 1198 01:09:50,872 --> 01:09:54,057 [BanKs] But this is a map that I personally have fond memories of. 1199 01:09:54,217 --> 01:09:54,838 [BanKs] I love the map. 1200 01:09:55,539 --> 01:09:57,863 [BanKs] I don't know about you, your thoughts on cash overall. 1201 01:09:59,164 --> 01:10:02,229 [BanKs] Did you like cash and cobblestone or did you prefer one or the other? 1202 01:10:02,985 --> 01:10:03,988 [Devilwalk] I hate it, Kobo. 1203 01:10:04,007 --> 01:10:19,002 [Devilwalk] I like cash. 1204 01:10:05,297 --> 01:10:07,722 [BanKs] I liked Cobble from even 1.6 days. 1205 01:10:08,304 --> 01:10:09,586 [BanKs] Very seated-sided map back then. 1206 01:10:10,849 --> 01:10:11,951 [BanKs] But I like both of them. 1207 01:10:12,051 --> 01:10:13,012 [BanKs] I'm a fan of Cache. 1208 01:10:13,052 --> 01:10:14,274 [BanKs] I just always enjoy playing it. 1209 01:10:15,216 --> 01:10:16,298 [BanKs] I'm happy to see it back. 1210 01:10:16,378 --> 01:10:23,813 [BanKs] And I think, I hope, this means that... Valve, please, someone, if you're ever watching this podcast, 1211 01:10:22,864 --> 01:10:41,903 [Devilwalk] before the grand final hype the crowd with a valve releases map 1212 01:10:24,247 --> 01:10:39,101 [BanKs] announce on the grand finals of the major because you already tell the players and teams before they already tell the players and teams like they know that the maps come in if you're at the major days but just on the grand final before the grand final the announcement will stand on stage and we'll be like 1213 01:10:40,515 --> 01:10:44,342 [BanKs] Cash is going to be in the competitive map from tomorrow. 1214 01:10:44,363 --> 01:10:45,564 [BanKs] All the teams will be practicing it. 1215 01:10:45,021 --> 01:10:51,835 [Devilwalk] That would be sick. 1216 01:10:45,585 --> 01:10:46,605 [BanKs] It's there for the VRS. 1217 01:10:46,747 --> 01:10:47,146 [BanKs] Boom. 1218 01:10:47,268 --> 01:10:48,729 [BanKs] That would be phenomenal. 1219 01:10:50,332 --> 01:10:51,014 [BanKs] That would be so good. 1220 01:10:51,515 --> 01:10:53,358 [BanKs] But yeah, you've been on it. 1221 01:10:51,854 --> 01:10:53,759 [Devilwalk] So, I haven't played the map. 1222 01:10:53,398 --> 01:10:54,439 [BanKs] Okay. 1223 01:10:54,480 --> 01:10:55,402 [Devilwalk] I haven't played it. 1224 01:10:56,203 --> 01:11:00,292 [Devilwalk] I haven't played a competitive game on it, but I've looked around on it. 1225 01:10:58,546 --> 01:10:58,726 [BanKs] Mm-hmm. 1226 01:11:01,234 --> 01:11:01,895 [Devilwalk] Looks good. 1227 01:11:01,935 --> 01:11:04,380 [Devilwalk] I think it looks pretty clean. 1228 01:11:03,667 --> 01:11:04,229 [BanKs] It's not green. 1229 01:11:04,569 --> 01:11:05,270 [BanKs] It's not green anymore. 1230 01:11:05,291 --> 01:11:05,631 [BanKs] That's good. 1231 01:11:06,756 --> 01:11:13,274 [Devilwalk] I like the aesthetic a lot more than the original. 1232 01:11:12,101 --> 01:11:12,963 [BanKs] The green version. 1233 01:11:13,654 --> 01:11:14,476 [Devilwalk] It's not original. 1234 01:11:14,206 --> 01:11:19,635 [BanKs] Yeah, the one that was before this, right, where it was all just green and low FPS. 1235 01:11:14,556 --> 01:11:15,519 [Devilwalk] Middle version. 1236 01:11:17,625 --> 01:11:19,770 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 1237 01:11:21,809 --> 01:11:27,628 [Devilwalk] Looks clean, looks good, looks like they fought about nade usage, flashes, you know. 1238 01:11:27,649 --> 01:11:34,131 [Devilwalk] I think it's going to be a little bit interesting, like on B site, there's like a pipe blocking 1239 01:11:34,110 --> 01:11:46,703 [Devilwalk] the window but would still flash players playing on the B site and stuff like that so you can kind of run with flashes as you run in so 1240 01:11:40,304 --> 01:11:59,899 [BanKs] Mm-hmm. 1241 01:11:48,117 --> 01:11:53,671 [Devilwalk] It looks like they fought about a lot of this stuff and it's going to be interesting to see how it actually plays. 1242 01:11:54,474 --> 01:12:01,975 [Devilwalk] They obviously kept the wallbang area from when you rotate around Underheaven for CT side if they take the vent room. 1243 01:12:02,292 --> 01:12:21,734 [BanKs] nice oh the one you hated the little jump up to it yeah well that's good then that's good it's gone 1244 01:12:04,012 --> 01:12:20,354 [Devilwalk] They've removed that damn window in mid-mirage, mid-cache CT side, which I absolutely found disturbing to many levels. 1245 01:12:22,478 --> 01:12:23,118 [Devilwalk] Yeah, it's great. 1246 01:12:23,707 --> 01:12:24,287 [BanKs] Perfect. 1247 01:12:24,466 --> 01:12:26,311 [Devilwalk] But yeah, I like it. 1248 01:12:26,792 --> 01:12:28,177 [Devilwalk] I think it's going to be interesting to see. 1249 01:12:28,198 --> 01:12:33,835 [Devilwalk] I remember how it was played at the end of the competitive map pool. 1250 01:12:36,716 --> 01:12:40,564 [Devilwalk] So maybe I'll go on a little bit of a rant of how it used to be played. 1251 01:12:40,865 --> 01:12:48,020 [Devilwalk] And maybe if you guys spot something when you're watching cash actually being played or when you play it yourself, right? 1252 01:12:41,048 --> 01:12:41,208 [BanKs] Yeah. 1253 01:12:49,103 --> 01:12:56,497 [Devilwalk] Biggest issue for Cityside, you kind of had to smoke all three parts of the map. 1254 01:12:57,793 --> 01:13:01,577 [Devilwalk] so you smoked A main you smoked mid and you smoked B 1255 01:13:02,046 --> 01:13:09,947 [BanKs] Yeah. 1256 01:13:02,940 --> 01:13:11,059 [Devilwalk] You didn't want mostly them to take mid control, because that gave them access to vents, drop down, you can split, you can fake. 1257 01:13:13,123 --> 01:13:21,844 [Devilwalk] So you kind of wanted to have that central area a lot, but it was kind of impossible to hold all the time. 1258 01:13:23,730 --> 01:13:28,739 [Devilwalk] But essentially it meant that CTs had very little utility to play with. 1259 01:13:28,779 --> 01:13:30,203 [Devilwalk] So double AWPing is great. 1260 01:13:30,703 --> 01:13:43,426 [Devilwalk] Being aggressive into A main is great because then you can kind of funnel the smokes into mid again and playing deep in the cover or deep into A main so that you kind of keep some control and can leave them there. 1261 01:13:43,407 --> 01:13:58,362 [Devilwalk] um but it ended up being a competitive kind of place where tees just waited waited waited waited they waited for the smokes to kind of be used from the cities they let them take space 1262 01:13:52,435 --> 01:13:53,046 [BanKs] Yeah. 1263 01:13:59,067 --> 01:14:04,020 [Devilwalk] And the map became really, really slow at the end of the competitive scene. 1264 01:14:04,563 --> 01:14:12,385 [Devilwalk] So I'm worried we'll see a very, very slow-paced style on Cache again as we move into it. 1265 01:14:13,663 --> 01:14:18,617 [Devilwalk] But once I think in the beginning, you probably never start off that way. 1266 01:14:18,717 --> 01:14:20,944 [Devilwalk] People are going to test the limits a little bit more. 1267 01:14:21,426 --> 01:14:35,773 [BanKs] Mm hmm. 1268 01:14:21,505 --> 01:14:23,690 [Devilwalk] So I hope to get that kind of 1269 01:14:23,671 --> 01:14:33,815 [Devilwalk] Very, very aggressive boosting, flashing out mid, taking spades, dropping vents, a lot of this flashy, fast-paced plays that you can do on this map. 1270 01:14:34,918 --> 01:14:40,212 [Devilwalk] And also feature a lot of great executes, like spawn smokes and all that kind of good stuff. 1271 01:14:40,867 --> 01:14:42,269 [BanKs] Did they remove symbols graffiti? 1272 01:14:43,717 --> 01:14:53,774 [Devilwalk] Well, they had all the Fnatic ones back then. 1273 01:14:45,073 --> 01:14:45,314 [BanKs] Ooh. 1274 01:14:46,595 --> 01:14:47,356 [BanKs] They should add that back. 1275 01:14:47,457 --> 01:14:48,519 [BanKs] Don't remove graffitis, man. 1276 01:14:51,363 --> 01:14:52,304 [BanKs] Yeah, that's what I'm saying. 1277 01:14:52,323 --> 01:14:52,925 [BanKs] Add everything back. 1278 01:14:53,185 --> 01:14:54,426 [BanKs] I don't want to see graffitis gone. 1279 01:14:53,793 --> 01:14:54,015 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 1280 01:14:54,648 --> 01:14:56,229 [BanKs] I think you should have all graffitis on. 1281 01:14:56,930 --> 01:14:58,132 [BanKs] It's legacy of our game. 1282 01:14:58,551 --> 01:15:16,881 [BanKs] yeah don't take them away don't take them away um cool well i'm looking forward to playing a little bit i'll probably play some in astana before i head there um or when i head there that's probably my best time to be able to do it next thing this is kind of crazy did you ever play with boris or meet him or yeah 1283 01:15:07,478 --> 01:15:16,189 [Devilwalk] I did. 1284 01:15:17,755 --> 01:15:30,569 [Devilwalk] So I played a Kinguin Cup at one point where me and Mikelele won against S1mple. 1285 01:15:23,948 --> 01:15:24,429 [BanKs] Okay. 1286 01:15:24,448 --> 01:15:27,112 [BanKs] Is this the one you and Michael Ailey won? 1287 01:15:31,398 --> 01:15:32,037 [BanKs] I remember this. 1288 01:15:31,551 --> 01:15:34,177 [Devilwalk] When S1mple was in his prime, I might add. 1289 01:15:32,097 --> 01:15:34,561 [BanKs] This is actually Prime. 1290 01:15:34,622 --> 01:15:35,323 [BanKs] Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1291 01:15:35,643 --> 01:15:37,064 [Devilwalk] This is Prime Simple. 1292 01:15:37,706 --> 01:15:40,949 [BanKs] Yep. 1293 01:15:37,947 --> 01:15:46,461 [Devilwalk] And this is two retired Swedes who... I'm not sure. 1294 01:15:40,970 --> 01:15:41,850 [BanKs] I worked one of these. 1295 01:15:41,871 --> 01:15:43,493 [BanKs] I don't know if I worked the one you won or not. 1296 01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:51,368 [Devilwalk] But I remember it was me and Michael Ehle and we were like, oh, it's Kinguin Cup. 1297 01:15:51,033 --> 01:16:02,628 [BanKs] yeah yeah the polish one right 1298 01:15:51,510 --> 01:15:55,355 [Devilwalk] We should just ask people who played in Kinguin. 1299 01:15:55,336 --> 01:16:00,265 [Devilwalk] So we asked Rallen and I think we played Masinu, maybe. 1300 01:16:01,587 --> 01:16:05,515 [Devilwalk] And then we said, okay, now we have the old people. 1301 01:16:05,997 --> 01:16:08,201 [Devilwalk] Now we need someone that can really shoot. 1302 01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:12,670 [Devilwalk] And yeah, then we picked up Boris for this. 1303 01:16:14,302 --> 01:16:16,507 [Devilwalk] And damn, he was shooting hard, man. 1304 01:16:16,953 --> 01:16:36,801 [BanKs] You're flashing for him, you're doing everything. 1305 01:16:17,369 --> 01:16:26,470 [Devilwalk] This kid had an insane, like one of the most insane kind of mechanical skill I've seen in Counter-Strike. 1306 01:16:27,313 --> 01:16:28,855 [Devilwalk] It was so easy to call. 1307 01:16:28,876 --> 01:16:31,502 [Devilwalk] I basically said, Boros, 1308 01:16:31,481 --> 01:16:32,305 [Devilwalk] You go calm. 1309 01:16:32,688 --> 01:16:34,537 [Devilwalk] We're gonna do this, this, this, this, this, this, this. 1310 01:16:34,819 --> 01:16:35,363 [Devilwalk] You go calm. 1311 01:16:35,765 --> 01:16:37,514 [Devilwalk] And he's like, okay. 1312 01:16:38,318 --> 01:16:39,061 [Devilwalk] That's all he said. 1313 01:16:40,543 --> 01:16:42,270 [Devilwalk] And he just went and killed people. 1314 01:16:42,470 --> 01:16:44,358 [Devilwalk] And I absolutely loved it. 1315 01:16:44,658 --> 01:16:48,011 [Devilwalk] It was so easy to be a caller in that game. 1316 01:16:48,072 --> 01:16:52,528 [Devilwalk] Everything I said Boris to do, he just destroyed everyone he saw. 1317 01:16:52,980 --> 01:16:55,204 [BanKs] Okay, so Algo plus Boros when? 1318 01:16:57,199 --> 01:16:57,501 [Devilwalk] No. 1319 01:16:58,465 --> 01:17:01,237 [Devilwalk] I think this is a long time ago. 1320 01:17:01,256 --> 01:17:06,618 [Devilwalk] I was a big fan of Boros, but obviously recent behavior is... 1321 01:17:06,828 --> 01:17:09,552 [BanKs] Bro, I don't even understand, man. 1322 01:17:09,632 --> 01:17:10,635 [BanKs] Like... 1323 01:17:10,733 --> 01:17:11,493 [BanKs] I agree with you. 1324 01:17:11,774 --> 01:17:15,381 [BanKs] I heard from just not even people, just not even pro players. 1325 01:17:15,521 --> 01:17:17,386 [BanKs] I mean, just people playing high level face it. 1326 01:17:17,766 --> 01:17:18,648 [BanKs] Boris is so good. 1327 01:17:18,688 --> 01:17:23,277 [BanKs] Boris is so like individually, mechanically, super skilled players, right? 1328 01:17:20,774 --> 01:17:24,708 [Devilwalk] It's one of the most wasted talents. 1329 01:17:23,837 --> 01:17:25,320 [BanKs] And he comes from a region. 1330 01:17:25,381 --> 01:17:27,324 [BanKs] He's from Jordan, right? 1331 01:17:27,305 --> 01:17:28,449 [BanKs] Yeah, it's the Middle East. 1332 01:17:28,630 --> 01:17:30,296 [BanKs] It's like you've got no hope. 1333 01:17:30,356 --> 01:17:33,569 [BanKs] You have no hope in terms of Counter-Strike from that country. 1334 01:17:34,212 --> 01:17:37,364 [BanKs] And this guy is living the dream and he actually has the skills to back it up. 1335 01:17:37,345 --> 01:17:51,979 [BanKs] he's been on all these mixed teams like his team roster history is crazy right from nasa no no if i'm gonna go from the beginning from nasa which is middle eastern team endpoint monty falcons into the breach and then after that it's all terrible right 1336 01:17:41,210 --> 01:17:43,117 [Devilwalk] He was, he was in Falcons. 1337 01:17:51,305 --> 01:17:51,404 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 1338 01:17:51,958 --> 01:17:55,988 [BanKs] And it must be his attitude or his ego. 1339 01:17:56,189 --> 01:17:57,672 [BanKs] Because I've done interviews with him. 1340 01:17:57,813 --> 01:17:58,555 [BanKs] I've spoken to him. 1341 01:17:58,996 --> 01:18:00,859 [BanKs] I had a nice conversation at one major with him. 1342 01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:03,024 [BanKs] What was his first major? 1343 01:18:05,652 --> 01:18:06,694 [BanKs] Paris major. 1344 01:18:07,449 --> 01:18:08,171 [BanKs] Paris Major. 1345 01:18:08,832 --> 01:18:10,074 [BanKs] And there was an RMR as well. 1346 01:18:09,306 --> 01:18:23,434 [Devilwalk] Okay, it was Paris. 1347 01:18:10,095 --> 01:18:11,877 [BanKs] There was a PGL RMR as well. 1348 01:18:12,378 --> 01:18:14,082 [BanKs] It was Antwerp. 1349 01:18:14,101 --> 01:18:21,014 [BanKs] And actually, there was one time we were on the same floor of the hotel and I bumped into him. 1350 01:18:21,033 --> 01:18:23,518 [BanKs] I just got chatting to him for ages outside my door. 1351 01:18:23,617 --> 01:18:25,680 [BanKs] And I thought, this kid's all right, actually. 1352 01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:27,984 [BanKs] Like, pretty well spoken, yeah? 1353 01:18:28,545 --> 01:18:29,407 [BanKs] Understands the game. 1354 01:18:29,466 --> 01:18:30,569 [BanKs] He's got something about him. 1355 01:18:29,725 --> 01:18:30,033 [Devilwalk] Thank you. 1356 01:18:30,929 --> 01:18:32,912 [BanKs] Maybe he can do well. 1357 01:18:33,833 --> 01:18:39,583 [BanKs] And obviously, he has the meme with Falcons changing his mouse and Sonic not being happy with it, whatever else. 1358 01:18:40,045 --> 01:18:40,865 [BanKs] But, like... 1359 01:18:42,247 --> 01:18:48,724 [BanKs] It's so sad to see where he's got because for people who don't understand what we're talking about, he is barred from the ACL. 1360 01:18:49,206 --> 01:18:50,729 [BanKs] I don't even know what the ACL is. 1361 01:18:50,750 --> 01:18:53,757 [BanKs] 2026 over discriminatory language. 1362 01:18:50,869 --> 01:19:06,185 [Devilwalk] Thank you. 1363 01:18:53,738 --> 01:19:01,373 [BanKs] So Hero Esports has announced that alter ego star Boros will not be allowed to participate in the Asia Champions League. 1364 01:19:01,394 --> 01:19:10,953 [BanKs] So he's in Asia right now over the use of racially discriminatory language during the preparation time of the event. 1365 01:19:06,586 --> 01:19:08,810 [Devilwalk] Thank you. 1366 01:19:10,934 --> 01:19:30,613 [BanKs] it's a clip so he has apologized he's put a video up apologizing he's tweeted he said my recent words were inappropriate and come across as racist that wasn't my intention he said i apologize to those affected especially my fellow chinese friends and i'll be more mindful about how i communicate moving forward now obviously we cannot accept any of this right that's for sure 1367 01:19:15,828 --> 01:19:16,456 [Devilwalk] Thank you. 1368 01:19:30,813 --> 01:19:46,442 [BanKs] but i mean he's someone who should know better because i i remember hearing things like him complaining about people being racist towards him from where he's from so he understands what it's like you know to be on that side of things 1369 01:19:36,127 --> 01:19:55,555 [Devilwalk] It's... 1370 01:19:47,079 --> 01:19:52,146 [BanKs] And the thing is, that team he's on, Alter Ego, right? 1371 01:19:52,707 --> 01:19:58,896 [BanKs] It's him, Gratisfaction, Pokemon, the Pakistani kid who people hyped up for a long time. 1372 01:19:58,689 --> 01:20:15,247 [Devilwalk] Thank you. 1373 01:19:58,917 --> 01:19:59,578 [BanKs] He might be older now. 1374 01:19:59,599 --> 01:19:59,998 [BanKs] He's 28. 1375 01:20:00,078 --> 01:20:01,060 [BanKs] I don't know. 1376 01:20:01,541 --> 01:20:03,944 [BanKs] He's just farming in that lower down tiers anyway. 1377 01:20:04,326 --> 01:20:05,466 [BanKs] Gratisfaction's there. 1378 01:20:05,828 --> 01:20:06,708 [BanKs] Bentet. 1379 01:20:07,717 --> 01:20:12,649 [BanKs] So it's like they're not going to be a super elite team, but they could do very well within the Asia region. 1380 01:20:13,230 --> 01:20:14,814 [BanKs] They could qualify for some of these things, right? 1381 01:20:14,835 --> 01:20:16,037 [BanKs] There's definitely potential in there. 1382 01:20:16,378 --> 01:20:17,943 [BanKs] But they are literally from all over the world. 1383 01:20:17,962 --> 01:20:25,862 [BanKs] You've got a Ukrainian, a Jordanian, a Pakistani, a New Zealander, and an Indonesian. 1384 01:20:18,467 --> 01:20:27,988 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 1385 01:20:27,056 --> 01:20:28,983 [BanKs] That's a mix and a half, man. 1386 01:20:29,162 --> 01:20:29,885 [BanKs] That's a mix. 1387 01:20:30,506 --> 01:20:32,573 [BanKs] But I don't know how you get out of this now. 1388 01:20:33,655 --> 01:20:34,257 [BanKs] Surely he's done. 1389 01:20:35,326 --> 01:20:38,032 [Devilwalk] No, and I even saw some other tweet about it. 1390 01:20:38,051 --> 01:20:47,292 [Devilwalk] I was trying to find it as you were talking about it, but basically it wasn't just because of him being, you know... 1391 01:20:41,458 --> 01:20:41,538 [BanKs] Hmm. 1392 01:20:48,488 --> 01:21:04,742 [Devilwalk] disrespecting in matchmaker or anything he actually used that language in like a tournament setting to admins which obviously is completely disgraceful it's not okay it's not what we want the game to be about I mean 1393 01:20:55,676 --> 01:20:56,121 [BanKs] Yeah. 1394 01:21:04,721 --> 01:21:15,052 [Devilwalk] not in a professional sense you're always going to have trolls and people who talk badly in matchmaking and all this kind of stuff because it is a 1395 01:21:16,703 --> 01:21:36,551 [Devilwalk] infuriating game when you lose and sometimes you suck but this is not the way it's sad to see because he was such a talent such a talent and it's just gone downhill and it's 1396 01:21:23,453 --> 01:21:23,974 [BanKs] Yeah. 1397 01:21:37,796 --> 01:21:39,621 [Devilwalk] Yeah, I'm sad to see it. 1398 01:21:40,061 --> 01:21:46,715 [Devilwalk] I thought he could be the next big thing, if I'm honest, with his capacity. 1399 01:21:40,838 --> 01:21:40,939 [BanKs] Yeah. 1400 01:21:47,264 --> 01:21:47,885 [BanKs] Mm-hmm. 1401 01:21:49,667 --> 01:21:54,818 [BanKs] And probably it puts a big thorn in the side for the rest of his teammates as well, considering they were trying to grind up. 1402 01:21:49,801 --> 01:21:51,385 [Devilwalk] Sorry, my throat. 1403 01:21:55,399 --> 01:22:02,110 [BanKs] They actually, in the closed qualifier, they made it to the main event through not even just his performance, like Ben Tech was still popping off in those things. 1404 01:22:02,430 --> 01:22:06,217 [BanKs] And like I said, in that region, they could potentially have done well. 1405 01:22:06,198 --> 01:22:26,215 [BanKs] so maybe they need to look for a new member we don't know what the update is of right now but um just because it's boris i thought we would touch on it a little bit um from boros to someone we can only talk positively about is ash and it's finally out there ash parts way with game legion game legions announced their parts ways with ash bringing the 35 year olds um 1406 01:22:10,297 --> 01:22:24,476 [Devilwalk] Thank you. 1407 01:22:26,194 --> 01:22:41,722 [BanKs] over five years stint five years of the organization to an end obviously he wanted to put himself um out of the equation i saw it was co-streaming and stuff as well he's obviously i don't know let's look at his youtube numbers i think his youtube does very well 1408 01:22:30,430 --> 01:22:48,472 [Devilwalk] Yeah, probably. 1409 01:22:42,039 --> 01:22:53,653 [BanKs] Ash's playbook yeah he's always getting like 53k views 37k views like he so he's a smart man on knowing CS obviously we learned he even played CS with Mezzy um 1410 01:22:51,726 --> 01:22:52,510 [Devilwalk] Hello, I am Buraz. 1411 01:22:52,911 --> 01:23:04,167 [Devilwalk] I want to apologize. 1412 01:22:53,717 --> 01:22:59,086 [BanKs] This guy's always been good with being well-spoken, always been praised very highly as a coach. 1413 01:23:00,106 --> 01:23:02,992 [BanKs] I wanted to see him go to FaZe and they got NKJ. 1414 01:23:03,072 --> 01:23:07,177 [BanKs] So maybe he himself doesn't want to go anywhere just yet, but now he's free. 1415 01:23:07,757 --> 01:23:10,882 [BanKs] I doubt he will stay free long if he does want to go back to coaching. 1416 01:23:11,756 --> 01:23:21,987 [Devilwalk] Yeah, I'm sure he's going to weigh up his options and see how he's feeling and if he's ready to take the same step again. 1417 01:23:21,595 --> 01:23:21,956 [BanKs] Yeah. 1418 01:23:23,992 --> 01:23:30,341 [Devilwalk] But an incredible talent within coaching in Counter-Strike, and we obviously want to see him back as soon as possible. 1419 01:23:31,444 --> 01:23:36,331 [Devilwalk] I don't know, there's plenty of good options for him. 1420 01:23:36,771 --> 01:23:43,823 [Devilwalk] I think people kind of just want to wait and see if when he feels good, they're ready to offer him a job, basically. 1421 01:23:44,377 --> 01:23:51,365 [BanKs] Yeah, but he was rumored to have many offers before when Game Legion were going on the up and didn't take him because he wanted to stay with Game Legion. 1422 01:23:51,726 --> 01:23:54,109 [BanKs] And then now to have this, it's kind of tough. 1423 01:23:55,972 --> 01:23:58,536 [BanKs] We'll have to keep an eye on where he could go in the future. 1424 01:23:58,576 --> 01:24:03,802 [BanKs] But I just think if he's already co-streaming, doing all this other stuff and the content, 1425 01:24:03,783 --> 01:24:05,345 [BanKs] Maybe after the major, he will be up. 1426 01:24:05,405 --> 01:24:06,868 [BanKs] Maybe that's when we'll see him get joined on. 1427 01:24:06,889 --> 01:24:08,110 [BanKs] But for now, I've not heard of anything. 1428 01:24:08,962 --> 01:24:28,203 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 1429 01:24:09,493 --> 01:24:10,997 [BanKs] And the next one. 1430 01:24:11,818 --> 01:24:13,742 [BanKs] So this is getting wild, man. 1431 01:24:13,801 --> 01:24:16,426 [BanKs] And I'm not sure what to do with BC game anymore. 1432 01:24:17,149 --> 01:24:17,909 [BanKs] Because... 1433 01:24:19,443 --> 01:24:22,711 [BanKs] BC Game have taken Senzu on loan. 1434 01:24:22,792 --> 01:24:24,395 [BanKs] So Senzu left Passion UA. 1435 01:24:24,456 --> 01:24:26,962 [BanKs] Obviously, he couldn't even hang. 1436 01:24:27,503 --> 01:24:29,708 [BanKs] He wasn't able to put up with the Passion UA boys. 1437 01:24:29,729 --> 01:24:31,373 [BanKs] He couldn't hang in there any longer. 1438 01:24:31,394 --> 01:24:33,018 [BanKs] Maybe they didn't want him. 1439 01:24:33,057 --> 01:24:35,203 [BanKs] But I mean, he was the standout player for that team. 1440 01:24:35,224 --> 01:24:36,185 [BanKs] That's for sure. 1441 01:24:36,166 --> 01:24:48,149 [BanKs] um and now he joins bc games so you've got simple electronics senzu and crazy they still don't have an igl by the looks of it um i don't know man 1442 01:24:40,992 --> 01:24:41,688 [Devilwalk] Thank you. 1443 01:24:49,582 --> 01:24:51,005 [BanKs] It's hard for me to know. 1444 01:24:51,646 --> 01:24:57,118 [BanKs] I listened to or I watched some of the clips that get posted from the general manager stream. 1445 01:24:58,140 --> 01:24:59,463 [BanKs] He's obviously taking it very seriously. 1446 01:24:59,484 --> 01:25:07,842 [BanKs] Their plan is to obviously be spoken about, especially it's beneficial for BC game and the people they are, the background of the company. 1447 01:25:08,363 --> 01:25:11,911 [BanKs] But like they bought in the Portuguese lot, which was not going to be cheap. 1448 01:25:12,653 --> 01:25:14,998 [BanKs] They're now down on, where are they? 1449 01:25:15,019 --> 01:25:16,402 [BanKs] 77th in the VRS rankings. 1450 01:25:16,903 --> 01:25:18,828 [BanKs] They're luckily still going to Atlanta. 1451 01:25:19,810 --> 01:25:21,052 [BanKs] I'm guessing as many teams said no. 1452 01:25:22,796 --> 01:25:25,021 [BanKs] But they're bringing Senzu and we still don't know who their fifth is. 1453 01:25:25,845 --> 01:25:26,576 [Devilwalk] Ahem. 1454 01:25:27,127 --> 01:25:33,498 [BanKs] Like, I just want to know, because you've got Taz, you've got S1mple, you've now taken Senzu. 1455 01:25:33,899 --> 01:25:35,643 [BanKs] Crazy is obviously still there, still believed in him. 1456 01:25:35,662 --> 01:25:37,046 [BanKs] They want to try to keep this core together. 1457 01:25:37,966 --> 01:25:40,051 [BanKs] Is this a team you can take seriously anymore? 1458 01:25:40,070 --> 01:25:41,292 [BanKs] Is this a team we should focus on? 1459 01:25:41,372 --> 01:25:42,876 [BanKs] It's like, what is going on? 1460 01:25:44,458 --> 01:25:44,899 [Devilwalk] I don't know. 1461 01:25:45,079 --> 01:25:50,211 [Devilwalk] I mean, I don't really know what to make of this. 1462 01:25:50,972 --> 01:25:55,402 [Devilwalk] I think it's a weird move from Sensu to join this team, first of all. 1463 01:25:56,344 --> 01:26:00,412 [Devilwalk] I don't think that this is... Well, that's weird. 1464 01:25:56,542 --> 01:25:57,765 [BanKs] Maybe he doesn't have many offers. 1465 01:26:00,452 --> 01:26:03,278 [Devilwalk] I mean, I feel like he should have. 1466 01:26:03,899 --> 01:26:04,984 [Devilwalk] Plenty of opportunities. 1467 01:26:06,971 --> 01:26:08,077 [Devilwalk] But, yeah. 1468 01:26:11,310 --> 01:26:12,295 [Devilwalk] I don't know what to say. 1469 01:26:12,314 --> 01:26:14,262 [Devilwalk] I feel like this team is just... 1470 01:26:13,582 --> 01:26:13,722 [BanKs] Mm hmm. 1471 01:26:15,761 --> 01:26:21,315 [Devilwalk] I feel like BC Game is the kind of team that will never live up to the expectations we've put on them. 1472 01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:30,378 [Devilwalk] And a lot of that is because of S1mple, but a lot of that is also with S1mple, how absolute... 1473 01:26:23,018 --> 01:26:23,399 [BanKs] Yeah. 1474 01:26:30,359 --> 01:26:47,322 [Devilwalk] shit they've been if we're completely honest they've had multiple opportunities they bought their way to get those opportunities they assembled this team and it just got worse and worse from every time I saw them the first event was probably the best event I've saw of them 1475 01:26:32,832 --> 01:26:33,113 [BanKs] Yeah. 1476 01:26:47,841 --> 01:26:48,335 [BanKs] Yeah. 1477 01:26:48,837 --> 01:26:58,931 [Devilwalk] um and i'm just wondering is this you know gonna work is this gonna 1478 01:27:00,396 --> 01:27:02,780 [BanKs] It's also like, what's the loan conditions, you know? 1479 01:27:02,820 --> 01:27:06,067 [BanKs] Like, is it more if Senzu's happy, if it's how they gel together? 1480 01:27:06,167 --> 01:27:10,574 [BanKs] Like, what are they looking at here as how they find the perfect pieces for them? 1481 01:27:10,595 --> 01:27:13,220 [BanKs] Because Senzu as an individual player is going to be great. 1482 01:27:14,021 --> 01:27:16,806 [BanKs] But is he going to be used to this style of playing? 1483 01:27:16,827 --> 01:27:19,131 [BanKs] Is he going to be used to what these players want, you know? 1484 01:27:18,030 --> 01:27:24,311 [Devilwalk] this environment yeah 1485 01:27:19,685 --> 01:27:26,015 [BanKs] Yeah, the environment, which we always have to talk about with these guys. 1486 01:27:25,220 --> 01:27:27,283 [Devilwalk] Yeah, I don't know really what to say. 1487 01:27:27,422 --> 01:27:34,774 [Devilwalk] I feel like for me, yes, it's going to be interesting to see their game-ish, but I'm not expecting much. 1488 01:27:35,997 --> 01:27:41,085 [Devilwalk] I would have rather seen Senzu kind of play it out with passion, if I'm honest. 1489 01:27:41,672 --> 01:27:57,893 [BanKs] yeah and he was performing well i'm looking down his ratings and it's big it's like big numbers pretty much all the time you cannot knock him on it yeah 1490 01:27:50,667 --> 01:27:55,760 [Devilwalk] But this to me is just like, what? 1491 01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:58,345 [Devilwalk] What's happening? 1492 01:27:59,028 --> 01:27:59,770 [Devilwalk] What's going on? 1493 01:27:59,949 --> 01:28:03,779 [Devilwalk] Why is this constellation of players being put together right now? 1494 01:28:04,702 --> 01:28:06,246 [Devilwalk] I don't understand a thing. 1495 01:28:07,728 --> 01:28:09,771 [Devilwalk] And like you say, they don't have an in-game leader. 1496 01:28:10,153 --> 01:28:11,255 [Devilwalk] Who are they practicing with? 1497 01:28:11,314 --> 01:28:11,997 [Devilwalk] What are they doing? 1498 01:28:12,016 --> 01:28:12,898 [Devilwalk] Are they wasting time? 1499 01:28:12,917 --> 01:28:14,702 [Devilwalk] Do they have a five-man lineup? 1500 01:28:14,721 --> 01:28:15,382 [Devilwalk] They must have. 1501 01:28:15,403 --> 01:28:16,805 [Devilwalk] Do they have a fucking game coming up? 1502 01:28:17,752 --> 01:28:34,680 [BanKs] yeah thing is they're doing they're doing like i read taz's tweets and he's hopeful and he's positive about it right and what he wants to build the team chemistry and go forward he's obviously trying to set the identity with it all 1503 01:28:18,829 --> 01:28:24,201 [Devilwalk] What's going on? 1504 01:28:35,453 --> 01:28:38,387 [BanKs] But as of right now, when you keep changing so much, you're not going to have identity. 1505 01:28:38,408 --> 01:28:41,865 [BanKs] I don't know. 1506 01:28:42,087 --> 01:28:44,096 [BanKs] Let's see who they can get as their fifth. 1507 01:28:44,465 --> 01:28:52,275 [BanKs] And obviously then they got to... Remember, every time they're bringing new players in and out as well, they start to rebuild that VRS standing with that lineup. 1508 01:28:44,515 --> 01:29:01,613 [Devilwalk] Thank you. 1509 01:28:52,336 --> 01:28:53,979 [BanKs] And then they have to reset again and reset again. 1510 01:28:55,161 --> 01:28:56,903 [BanKs] So, I don't know, man. 1511 01:28:57,002 --> 01:28:57,764 [BanKs] It's strange. 1512 01:28:57,783 --> 01:28:59,185 [BanKs] We'll have to wait and see who their fifth is going to be. 1513 01:28:59,506 --> 01:29:04,413 [BanKs] Obviously, the sub they already made public for Atlanta was supposed to be... 1514 01:29:04,292 --> 01:29:07,979 [Devilwalk] Oh, yeah. 1515 01:29:04,394 --> 01:29:17,728 [BanKs] no cries right and it's scrap scrunk yes so scrunk is igl i even though we spoke about this last episode it's one in the morning here no scrunk is igl playing 1516 01:29:13,609 --> 01:29:15,311 [Devilwalk] Analyst, what? 1517 01:29:20,577 --> 01:29:30,233 [BanKs] playing IGL and then he's got to make all the pieces work together for this Atlanta event so I guess he's just there for this tournament 1518 01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:21,002 [Devilwalk] Okay. 1519 01:29:31,310 --> 01:29:32,934 [BanKs] And their first game is against Vitality, by the way. 1520 01:29:31,630 --> 01:29:45,605 [Devilwalk] It almost makes it even weirder. 1521 01:29:32,953 --> 01:29:33,695 [BanKs] Yeah, I forgot about it. 1522 01:29:33,716 --> 01:29:35,340 [BanKs] Because I even made the crazy tweet. 1523 01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:35,621 [BanKs] I don't know. 1524 01:29:35,640 --> 01:29:36,503 [BanKs] You probably didn't see it. 1525 01:29:37,244 --> 01:29:38,068 [BanKs] I made the tweet. 1526 01:29:38,268 --> 01:29:44,002 [BanKs] My tweet was, where is it? 1527 01:29:45,771 --> 01:29:48,217 [BanKs] I said, Skrunk is about to go crazy. 1528 01:29:48,519 --> 01:29:55,435 [BanKs] IGL Brain will be going electronic while trying to keep things simple because he knows this ride's going to have him needing a senzu bean. 1529 01:29:57,801 --> 01:29:58,864 [BanKs] I fit in every player's name. 1530 01:29:59,827 --> 01:30:01,051 [BanKs] That was the 27th of April. 1531 01:30:00,182 --> 01:30:15,627 [Devilwalk] Yep. 1532 01:30:01,070 --> 01:30:02,835 [BanKs] It's a long, long day it's been since then. 1533 01:30:08,012 --> 01:30:12,336 [BanKs] But yeah, Skrank obviously was not on a loan situation, so he's just there for Atlanta by the looks of it. 1534 01:30:15,269 --> 01:30:28,856 [BanKs] luck to him as well good luck to him yeah all right we got two event previews to do next so let's move on into that the first one being the smaller of the two events that are taking place um it's atlanta 1535 01:30:16,529 --> 01:30:17,331 [Devilwalk] Good luck, man. 1536 01:30:28,837 --> 01:30:33,649 [BanKs] So obviously with Atlanta being an American event, a lot less teams are going from the big, big teams. 1537 01:30:29,073 --> 01:30:43,791 [Devilwalk] Yep. 1538 01:30:34,032 --> 01:30:39,426 [BanKs] But literally of the top 10 teams, it's only Vitality, Na'Vi and Foot and Astralis. 1539 01:30:39,868 --> 01:30:44,600 [BanKs] And everything else is like dripping all the way down to like 77th in the VRS. 1540 01:30:44,581 --> 01:31:03,805 [BanKs] bc game and his passion sinners like it's a really kind of four teams to look at maybe phase can have some fun run here but it's not impressive i actually spoke to vitality as well and vitality's kind of mindset here i just want to make sure i quote this correctly because i was just checking exactly 1541 01:31:03,784 --> 01:31:19,565 [BanKs] what it would be um so obviously esl has that thing with the revenue share right so if you skip too many esl events you uh don't get taken part into it so they couldn't skip this one but also in case of the grand slam if they didn't win it in rio 1542 01:31:09,859 --> 01:31:21,777 [Devilwalk] Yep. 1543 01:31:19,546 --> 01:31:22,014 [BanKs] than they needed to have it in Atlanta, you know? 1544 01:31:22,756 --> 01:31:26,087 [BanKs] So that's why they didn't go Astana, where most of the best teams went to Astana. 1545 01:31:26,568 --> 01:31:28,715 [BanKs] So a lot of the teams in Astana are just going to be happy Vitality's not there. 1546 01:31:28,734 --> 01:31:31,564 [BanKs] It's going to be a much more open event, where Atlanta's kind of like... 1547 01:31:32,573 --> 01:31:35,216 [BanKs] The short end of the stick tournament, not that exciting. 1548 01:31:36,680 --> 01:31:39,965 [BanKs] We can just look at a few teams that we've taken part in the major and seeing what they can do here. 1549 01:31:40,926 --> 01:31:49,400 [BanKs] But to give the team list rundown, we've got Vitality, Na'Vi, Foot, Astralis, Legacy, Bait, FaZe, Betboom, M80, Liquid, 1550 01:31:42,125 --> 01:31:43,056 [Devilwalk] Thank you. 1551 01:31:49,381 --> 01:32:05,550 [BanKs] pain energy game legion sinners passion and bc game so obviously we just spoke about bc game they are the lowest uh ranked team in the tournament where would you considering how many also other low teams there are 1552 01:32:05,226 --> 01:32:05,804 [Devilwalk] Thank you. 1553 01:32:06,813 --> 01:32:09,658 [BanKs] And I do rate Skrunk as being a smart man about Counter-Strike. 1554 01:32:10,078 --> 01:32:12,184 [BanKs] Not sure about his playing ability, but as an IGL. 1555 01:32:13,365 --> 01:32:15,670 [BanKs] Where would you be hoping they could go? 1556 01:32:15,831 --> 01:32:17,613 [BanKs] Where's the thought process from? 1557 01:32:18,615 --> 01:32:20,619 [BanKs] How far could they have a run in this tournament? 1558 01:32:22,725 --> 01:32:36,702 [Devilwalk] uh they could i think win a lower bracket round no 1559 01:32:31,247 --> 01:32:32,264 [BanKs] No playoff chance. 1560 01:32:34,032 --> 01:32:36,275 [BanKs] Okay, no playoff chance. 1561 01:32:36,536 --> 01:32:37,396 [BanKs] Then you've got Passion. 1562 01:32:37,417 --> 01:32:38,899 [BanKs] They're going to be playing with SDY. 1563 01:32:39,621 --> 01:32:41,844 [BanKs] So SDY is coming in to replace Senzu. 1564 01:32:42,537 --> 01:32:51,601 [Devilwalk] Thank you. 1565 01:32:42,564 --> 01:32:45,029 [BanKs] I don't think he's going to have the same firepower output for sure. 1566 01:32:45,670 --> 01:32:47,953 [BanKs] But Senzu is an experienced, knowledgeable player. 1567 01:32:48,614 --> 01:32:49,716 [BanKs] Two Ukrainians in the lineup. 1568 01:32:49,737 --> 01:32:52,581 [BanKs] Kvam is still there with SDY now. 1569 01:32:52,560 --> 01:33:09,203 [BanKs] for passion like this is this is an important event to have a run in if possible hmm 1570 01:32:58,670 --> 01:33:03,442 [Devilwalk] Yeah, and I mean, they were definitely building something with Senzu. 1571 01:33:03,481 --> 01:33:04,824 [Devilwalk] I don't know what happened. 1572 01:33:04,845 --> 01:33:08,153 [Devilwalk] A PC game kind of came in and just swooped in on the deal. 1573 01:33:10,238 --> 01:33:11,680 [Devilwalk] Or what was up. 1574 01:33:12,863 --> 01:33:16,493 [Devilwalk] So this kind of staggers their... 1575 01:33:17,587 --> 01:33:20,458 [Devilwalk] development a little bit and their plans for this season. 1576 01:33:23,671 --> 01:33:27,427 [Devilwalk] Yeah, I don't really know what to think of Passions. 1577 01:33:28,926 --> 01:33:47,712 [Devilwalk] now that they don't have sensu i still think they can be in like middle of the pack they can beat some teams they can make some rumbles but i don't think they're a playoff team in this tournament yeah six teams 1578 01:33:31,136 --> 01:33:31,457 [BanKs] Yeah. 1579 01:33:38,692 --> 01:33:40,515 [BanKs] How many teams are you getting in playoff with this? 1580 01:33:40,536 --> 01:33:44,503 [BanKs] Oh, it's going to be two straight through the semis and then four in quarters. 1581 01:33:45,265 --> 01:33:46,328 [BanKs] So it's still a six-team... 1582 01:33:47,707 --> 01:33:50,336 [BanKs] Six teams again, which is sad, but that's all changing. 1583 01:33:50,596 --> 01:33:52,724 [BanKs] Just got to keep focusing on what's going to happen in 2027. 1584 01:33:53,627 --> 01:33:55,311 [BanKs] After Passion, we've got Sinners. 1585 01:33:56,375 --> 01:33:58,561 [BanKs] Sinners, obviously, they made the major, right? 1586 01:34:01,427 --> 01:34:15,572 [Devilwalk] Yes, I think so. 1587 01:34:04,414 --> 01:34:05,318 [BanKs] Let me double check. 1588 01:34:05,639 --> 01:34:06,882 [BanKs] Oh, I just say completely wrong. 1589 01:34:07,626 --> 01:34:08,628 [BanKs] Yeah, Sinners made the major. 1590 01:34:08,649 --> 01:34:08,989 [BanKs] There we go. 1591 01:34:09,030 --> 01:34:09,934 [BanKs] Sinners made the major. 1592 01:34:10,716 --> 01:34:13,485 [BanKs] So Sinners, they were not even at this tournament. 1593 01:34:13,626 --> 01:34:14,588 [BanKs] They replaced BetM. 1594 01:34:14,670 --> 01:34:17,479 [BanKs] I guess BetM being Russian team didn't get visas. 1595 01:34:17,458 --> 01:34:19,082 [BanKs] So Senna's got to come. 1596 01:34:19,583 --> 01:34:20,546 [BanKs] They got themselves in order. 1597 01:34:20,725 --> 01:34:21,447 [BanKs] They were able to play. 1598 01:34:21,507 --> 01:34:29,224 [BanKs] That's an exciting team in this lineup who have a chance to punch above where they're at and gives them a lot of experience before going to the major. 1599 01:34:31,077 --> 01:34:38,622 [Devilwalk] Yeah, I'd actually put Sinners as at least a top 8 team in this tournament. 1600 01:34:39,194 --> 01:34:40,327 [BanKs] Ooh, okay. 1601 01:34:40,527 --> 01:34:41,809 [Devilwalk] I think they're much better. 1602 01:34:40,811 --> 01:34:41,965 [BanKs] Potential of making playoffs. 1603 01:34:43,270 --> 01:34:49,198 [Devilwalk] Honestly, I think I could see them beating NRG, Pain, Liquid, M80, Betboom even. 1604 01:34:49,819 --> 01:34:59,532 [Devilwalk] I think they're around that phase Betboom mark, if I'm honest. 1605 01:34:57,216 --> 01:34:58,579 [BanKs] Yeah. 1606 01:34:58,600 --> 01:35:01,787 [BanKs] They won that Star Ladder ranking season one event as well. 1607 01:35:03,511 --> 01:35:08,253 [Devilwalk] Yeah, but they're definitely a team with a lot of firepower. 1608 01:35:08,314 --> 01:35:09,740 [Devilwalk] They... 1609 01:35:11,087 --> 01:35:26,582 [Devilwalk] playing interesting I've seen Modo he obviously played in that nine team in the past can have incredibly high octane games where he's just like full throttle 35 bombing 1610 01:35:14,033 --> 01:35:14,414 [BanKs] Yes. 1611 01:35:14,555 --> 01:35:14,635 [BanKs] Yes. 1612 01:35:26,561 --> 01:35:42,967 [Devilwalk] but it's a bit inconsistent but he's a very very exciting player to watch but yeah I'm looking forward to watching Sinners yeah 1613 01:35:34,796 --> 01:35:42,984 [BanKs] That's a team that I'm excited to see play before we get to the major. 1614 01:35:43,048 --> 01:35:45,694 [BanKs] Game of Legion, they're in next. 1615 01:35:45,895 --> 01:35:49,463 [BanKs] Obviously also in the same stage, stage one of the major as Sinners. 1616 01:35:49,864 --> 01:35:51,248 [BanKs] They're playing Sinners in the first game. 1617 01:35:51,770 --> 01:35:55,137 [BanKs] After what Game of Legion showed us, and the fact I'm guessing they're going to stay in America, right? 1618 01:35:55,278 --> 01:35:56,622 [BanKs] They're not going to go home in between this. 1619 01:35:55,688 --> 01:36:05,800 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 1620 01:35:57,042 --> 01:36:00,130 [BanKs] Even though Atlanta doesn't start for like another, what's it? 1621 01:36:01,712 --> 01:36:19,840 [BanKs] five six days they'll still stay in america you're not going to go home in between that right so keep practicing america go for it from there stay adjusted game lesion is the team that i will be looking now at saying okay you made playoffs of a very small event in terms of the amount of teams it's just almost guaranteed to go through you just win one let's see if you can do it here 1622 01:36:21,574 --> 01:36:41,136 [Devilwalk] yeah i agree i want to see some stability from gamer legion be able to kind of be a little bit of a gatekeeper to the playoff spots to to some degree uh and maybe maybe clinch one but um yeah 1623 01:36:21,743 --> 01:36:23,225 [BanKs] That should be their expectations. 1624 01:36:39,278 --> 01:36:40,140 [BanKs] Definitely potential. 1625 01:36:42,331 --> 01:36:43,757 [BanKs] Oh, next one's interesting. 1626 01:36:44,078 --> 01:36:44,541 [BanKs] NRG. 1627 01:36:45,537 --> 01:36:51,143 [Devilwalk] I've been kind of disappointed with the Grimm addition of NRG. 1628 01:36:46,451 --> 01:36:47,615 [BanKs] Because we were so... 1629 01:36:49,402 --> 01:36:51,266 [BanKs] Yeah, we liked them. 1630 01:36:51,507 --> 01:36:52,109 [BanKs] We liked them. 1631 01:36:52,130 --> 01:36:54,877 [BanKs] We hyped up the Grim Edition as well, saying what it could bring. 1632 01:36:55,319 --> 01:37:00,393 [BanKs] And they've even struggled at that Frag 20 event, which was just a local American event in Las Vegas. 1633 01:37:01,536 --> 01:37:02,819 [BanKs] They finished fifth to eighth there. 1634 01:37:05,466 --> 01:37:06,609 [BanKs] Oof. 1635 01:37:05,466 --> 01:37:21,282 [Devilwalk] yeah not no I think they're in a pretty rough position right now if I'm honest 1636 01:37:06,628 --> 01:37:06,810 [BanKs] Oof. 1637 01:37:08,533 --> 01:37:10,256 [BanKs] I wouldn't put them going playoffs. 1638 01:37:14,565 --> 01:37:14,805 [BanKs] Yeah. 1639 01:37:15,908 --> 01:37:20,438 [BanKs] It's all about what they can show going forward, you know? 1640 01:37:21,920 --> 01:37:26,708 [BanKs] If they can show themselves of like they've leveled up a bit, then sure, there's potential with it. 1641 01:37:25,631 --> 01:37:25,925 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 1642 01:37:26,748 --> 01:37:28,934 [BanKs] But I mean, it's probably a lot to ask for. 1643 01:37:30,457 --> 01:37:31,137 [BanKs] Payne next. 1644 01:37:33,042 --> 01:37:33,521 [BanKs] Oh, Payne. 1645 01:37:33,962 --> 01:37:36,528 [BanKs] Payne's with no NQZ. 1646 01:37:37,149 --> 01:37:37,970 [BanKs] Safe is in now. 1647 01:37:39,318 --> 01:37:54,778 [BanKs] because he needs some time off i'm still not sure who they're playing the major with was it was safe or not let me check he's been around a long time man it's been around a long time um 1648 01:37:46,287 --> 01:37:48,501 [Devilwalk] It's crazy safe as 31. 1649 01:37:57,408 --> 01:37:59,591 [BanKs] After the circuit excellence in time, that's fine. 1650 01:38:00,310 --> 01:38:01,512 [Devilwalk] Either way, I like Safe. 1651 01:38:01,833 --> 01:38:02,877 [Devilwalk] I like him as an AWPer. 1652 01:38:03,157 --> 01:38:08,692 [Devilwalk] He's a little bit more of a... Trying to play a more consistent AWPing style. 1653 01:38:10,935 --> 01:38:12,216 [BanKs] It seems like you're playing at the major. 1654 01:38:10,957 --> 01:38:14,286 [Devilwalk] Can be... Yeah. 1655 01:38:12,597 --> 01:38:13,560 [BanKs] Seems like you're playing at the major. 1656 01:38:17,270 --> 01:38:25,787 [Devilwalk] But yeah, I like Pain, but they're kind of in also a little bit of a rebuild again, again. 1657 01:38:24,188 --> 01:38:24,832 [BanKs] Free fall. 1658 01:38:25,194 --> 01:38:31,329 [BanKs] Free fall, man. 1659 01:38:25,827 --> 01:38:30,114 [Devilwalk] NQC was obviously a big star in this team and 1660 01:38:31,529 --> 01:38:41,024 [Devilwalk] But they've been doing really good in the Brazilian region with like they won Betboom Circuit X. Fergie in-house came third. 1661 01:38:41,604 --> 01:38:47,715 [Devilwalk] So they have been leveling up as of late and could be an exciting team to kind of watch. 1662 01:38:49,432 --> 01:38:54,445 [Devilwalk] Obviously safe, this is the first tournament the player was safe. 1663 01:38:53,364 --> 01:39:10,091 [BanKs] first yeah yeah exactly so let's see let's see what he can do um oh my oh no oh rio was bad 1664 01:39:00,402 --> 01:39:00,863 [Devilwalk] Liquid. 1665 01:39:03,912 --> 01:39:05,215 [Devilwalk] What do you say about Liquid? 1666 01:39:10,914 --> 01:39:13,235 [BanKs] They struggle even when they go to tier two events. 1667 01:39:13,256 --> 01:39:15,255 [BanKs] They just about made the major. 1668 01:39:16,787 --> 01:39:26,806 [BanKs] Here is the golden opportunity to farm some lower down teams based on the name value you have, but actually play up to what is expected of you. 1669 01:39:27,328 --> 01:39:29,551 [BanKs] Maybe Malbz is going to be a bit more settled in the team. 1670 01:39:30,132 --> 01:39:32,356 [BanKs] Elige, obviously, you can still be praising. 1671 01:39:32,556 --> 01:39:34,000 [BanKs] Naf has had a better resurgence. 1672 01:39:34,581 --> 01:39:36,805 [BanKs] We're still just looking at Shuhei and Ultimate. 1673 01:39:36,784 --> 01:39:50,220 [BanKs] that's that's it every time for me just looking directly at him yeah 1674 01:39:42,217 --> 01:39:45,963 [Devilwalk] Yeah, I think that's a fair assessment. 1675 01:39:45,984 --> 01:39:48,988 [Devilwalk] I mean, obviously, they should be punching way above. 1676 01:39:49,029 --> 01:39:53,896 [Devilwalk] They have some really, really strong players in that team. 1677 01:39:56,601 --> 01:40:01,189 [Devilwalk] I'm worried for them because if I look... 1678 01:40:01,877 --> 01:40:02,279 [Devilwalk] Sorry. 1679 01:40:02,298 --> 01:40:03,600 [Devilwalk] My voice. 1680 01:40:03,396 --> 01:40:05,006 [BanKs] Bro you need more water. 1681 01:40:04,100 --> 01:40:04,481 [Devilwalk] My voice. 1682 01:40:05,443 --> 01:40:06,345 [Devilwalk] I need more water. 1683 01:40:06,385 --> 01:40:10,270 [Devilwalk] I'm going to run and get water straight after I finish this sentence. 1684 01:40:08,323 --> 01:40:08,867 [BanKs] Yeah yeah. 1685 01:40:10,850 --> 01:40:19,042 [Devilwalk] But Liquid for me, I'm worried because when I look at the format, am I looking at this saying Liquid will have a playoff spot? 1686 01:40:20,069 --> 01:40:21,431 [Devilwalk] I see all the teams above. 1687 01:40:21,452 --> 01:40:23,576 [Devilwalk] I see the form that some of these teams are in. 1688 01:40:24,277 --> 01:40:25,037 [Devilwalk] And I'm saying no. 1689 01:40:26,346 --> 01:40:28,070 [BanKs] Because it's 16 playoffs, yeah. 1690 01:40:26,681 --> 01:40:31,329 [Devilwalk] I don't... Yeah, I don't think Liquid can squeeze in a place in playoff. 1691 01:40:31,430 --> 01:40:37,943 [Devilwalk] And I think that's worrisome for them because I don't think anything else is acceptable in their situation either. 1692 01:40:39,876 --> 01:40:40,136 [BanKs] Yeah. 1693 01:40:42,277 --> 01:40:44,118 [Devilwalk] So it's a scary tournament for them. 1694 01:40:45,702 --> 01:40:46,904 [BanKs] It is very scary to him. 1695 01:40:47,024 --> 01:40:50,548 [BanKs] They need to do well, but there's just so many other teams I might put above him right now. 1696 01:40:51,029 --> 01:40:53,733 [BanKs] All right, you grab water and I'll start dealing onto my M80. 1697 01:40:53,953 --> 01:40:54,875 [BanKs] See how fast you can be. 1698 01:40:56,556 --> 01:40:59,020 [BanKs] So M80 next, I would put above Team Liquid. 1699 01:40:59,581 --> 01:41:01,262 [BanKs] He didn't leave his headset on, so he can't hear me. 1700 01:41:01,724 --> 01:41:02,284 [BanKs] This guy. 1701 01:41:02,945 --> 01:41:05,448 [BanKs] See, look, when I walk away, I keep my headset on. 1702 01:41:05,429 --> 01:41:07,974 [BanKs] So I can hear what he's talking about and I know what he's talking about. 1703 01:41:08,375 --> 01:41:10,118 [BanKs] So this will be my ultimate time to troll him. 1704 01:41:10,640 --> 01:41:11,662 [BanKs] DevWalk is a moron. 1705 01:41:12,224 --> 01:41:16,131 [BanKs] He has a wireless headset, but he takes it off. 1706 01:41:16,152 --> 01:41:16,913 [BanKs] It's not very smart. 1707 01:41:17,253 --> 01:41:18,296 [BanKs] He did come back very quickly. 1708 01:41:18,337 --> 01:41:22,746 [BanKs] But as you all know, DevWalk is an idiot. 1709 01:41:26,573 --> 01:41:28,176 [BanKs] Because you have a wireless headset. 1710 01:41:29,260 --> 01:41:30,543 [BanKs] It says you're muted. 1711 01:41:30,743 --> 01:41:34,113 [BanKs] You have a wireless headset. 1712 01:41:34,153 --> 01:41:35,757 [BanKs] You could hear me when I'm talking about it. 1713 01:41:34,488 --> 01:41:37,154 [Devilwalk] Yeah, but then I have to change everything. 1714 01:41:36,900 --> 01:41:39,087 [BanKs] Oh, terrible, terrible. 1715 01:41:39,367 --> 01:41:41,072 [BanKs] I need to connect you up properly. 1716 01:41:41,051 --> 01:41:46,060 [BanKs] So I was going to say M80, I put their chances way above Liquid of making playoffs. 1717 01:41:46,180 --> 01:41:47,864 [BanKs] I actually have them as a team that could make playoffs. 1718 01:41:47,904 --> 01:41:48,706 [BanKs] They could do some damage. 1719 01:41:48,143 --> 01:41:49,948 [Devilwalk] Yeah, I agree on that. 1720 01:41:50,168 --> 01:41:53,475 [BanKs] People might look at it and think, oh, but they still only came 58 for that Frag event. 1721 01:41:53,775 --> 01:41:57,221 [BanKs] But they're competitive at some of these tier two LAN tournaments in Europe and stuff like that. 1722 01:41:57,582 --> 01:42:01,069 [BanKs] So I'm actually, I'll be quite positive around that. 1723 01:42:01,048 --> 01:42:11,713 [BanKs] The whole team of, yeah. 1724 01:42:02,078 --> 01:42:03,585 [Devilwalk] Dude, I love watching M80. 1725 01:42:03,725 --> 01:42:05,192 [Devilwalk] I think they're a great team to watch. 1726 01:42:05,372 --> 01:42:11,059 [Devilwalk] And I think that they thrive in scenarios where people underestimate them, you know? 1727 01:42:12,489 --> 01:42:21,064 [Devilwalk] When I watch them play, you know, yeah, which is a lot, but when I watch them play and have played, especially at events like this, they love every second of it. 1728 01:42:12,775 --> 01:42:13,438 [BanKs] Which is a lot. 1729 01:42:21,465 --> 01:42:22,365 [Devilwalk] Every single second. 1730 01:42:21,755 --> 01:42:37,029 [BanKs] Yep. 1731 01:42:22,466 --> 01:42:24,009 [Devilwalk] Doesn't matter if they're playing a Batboom. 1732 01:42:24,029 --> 01:42:25,952 [Devilwalk] Doesn't matter if they're playing a Na'Vi. 1733 01:42:26,592 --> 01:42:29,637 [Devilwalk] They want to be there and they want to show themselves. 1734 01:42:29,618 --> 01:42:31,002 [Devilwalk] And show up in the game. 1735 01:42:31,023 --> 01:42:32,307 [Devilwalk] And they will play all out. 1736 01:42:33,110 --> 01:42:34,135 [Devilwalk] If it breaks, it breaks. 1737 01:42:34,175 --> 01:42:35,259 [Devilwalk] But they at least try. 1738 01:42:36,122 --> 01:42:38,851 [Devilwalk] And they at least give it their all. 1739 01:42:38,972 --> 01:42:40,438 [Devilwalk] And that's why I love watching them. 1740 01:42:41,632 --> 01:42:42,956 [BanKs] Yeah, that's very fair. 1741 01:42:43,676 --> 01:42:44,297 [BanKs] Very fair. 1742 01:42:44,498 --> 01:42:47,805 [BanKs] I think this is a team that can certainly make the run here. 1743 01:42:48,787 --> 01:42:49,789 [BanKs] I think they can certainly do it. 1744 01:42:51,032 --> 01:42:53,938 [BanKs] That's a team to look out for, taking one of those spots away. 1745 01:42:53,917 --> 01:43:05,682 [BanKs] um next is bet boom but flamus is replacing dildas now it's not that weird because bet boom have already played some tournaments with him like i think it's the 1746 01:42:58,052 --> 01:43:17,900 [Devilwalk] It's I think like a whole year almost. 1747 01:43:07,890 --> 01:43:15,685 [BanKs] He replaced him for the other ranked event for Ranked Event Episode 1 from Starladder. 1748 01:43:16,488 --> 01:43:18,712 [BanKs] Did he do it at the Roman Cup that they won? 1749 01:43:18,731 --> 01:43:21,296 [BanKs] Yep, Flammas was playing there. 1750 01:43:20,648 --> 01:43:29,662 [Devilwalk] Thomas played since March. 1751 01:43:21,317 --> 01:43:23,622 [BanKs] He was top performer in the final. 1752 01:43:23,770 --> 01:43:26,618 [BanKs] Flamers has played a lot, so he knows what he's doing in this team. 1753 01:43:26,698 --> 01:43:27,761 [BanKs] He knows what he's doing with these players. 1754 01:43:28,162 --> 01:43:28,925 [BanKs] This is a team. 1755 01:43:28,965 --> 01:43:30,729 [BanKs] There you go. 1756 01:43:31,270 --> 01:43:34,962 [BanKs] So this is a team that has a great chance of going far. 1757 01:43:35,792 --> 01:43:35,872 [Devilwalk] Yep. 1758 01:43:36,240 --> 01:43:37,823 [BanKs] BetBoom is a grinding team. 1759 01:43:38,123 --> 01:43:42,972 [BanKs] I still credit Boom, which is being a great in-game leader, can handle a lot of tough situations. 1760 01:43:43,273 --> 01:43:50,706 [BanKs] It's just sometimes they seem to get blown out of some games where I go, but that's normally when they come to the bigger event, you know, when they've qualified through. 1761 01:43:50,685 --> 01:43:55,078 [BanKs] So I feel like here, this is where they can prove themselves. 1762 01:43:55,099 --> 01:43:57,225 [BanKs] They should be looking 100% at playoffs here. 1763 01:43:59,511 --> 01:44:00,675 [Devilwalk] They have a chance at playoff. 1764 01:44:01,277 --> 01:44:01,797 [Devilwalk] Definitely. 1765 01:44:01,618 --> 01:44:02,399 [BanKs] It's not going to be easy. 1766 01:44:03,965 --> 01:44:05,247 [Devilwalk] They can set their sights to it. 1767 01:44:05,368 --> 01:44:07,033 [Devilwalk] And they can have their expectations there. 1768 01:44:07,073 --> 01:44:10,804 [Devilwalk] Because... I think the thing with Beth Poom... 1769 01:44:10,783 --> 01:44:14,953 [Devilwalk] you can look at is that they've been consistent in the tier that they've played in. 1770 01:44:15,175 --> 01:44:18,002 [Devilwalk] They've been very, very consistently gathering wins. 1771 01:44:18,082 --> 01:44:21,449 [Devilwalk] They've played consistently against similar ranked teams. 1772 01:44:22,271 --> 01:44:24,979 [Devilwalk] So... I think... 1773 01:44:24,958 --> 01:44:31,594 [Devilwalk] They can only really punch upwards in this tournament and, you know, a weakened face or a little bit... 1774 01:44:32,856 --> 01:44:46,173 [Devilwalk] undisciplined or unstructured at the moment phase as they are in this kind of development form could be you know a target I think bait could be a target they could swing against I think Astralis could be 1775 01:44:46,154 --> 01:45:04,516 [Devilwalk] a team when australis has a bad day they could pick up a win i think it's going to be harder against a team like vitality navi and foot i think those i'm pretty much putting them straight into playoffs and it's going to be a fight for those last three spots 1776 01:44:51,266 --> 01:45:00,078 [BanKs] Yeah, that's stable. 1777 01:45:04,868 --> 01:45:05,970 [BanKs] Yeah, definitely. 1778 01:45:07,472 --> 01:45:11,240 [BanKs] FaZe, I think we've spoken enough about them on the podcast already, but they're playing with Nature again. 1779 01:45:11,280 --> 01:45:18,194 [BanKs] This is a team that we'll be looking at riding that high, building off the momentum they had, playing off individual strength. 1780 01:45:18,515 --> 01:45:20,599 [BanKs] Obviously, they're not going to have too much more time to practice. 1781 01:45:20,639 --> 01:45:21,541 [BanKs] It's what we just mentioned. 1782 01:45:21,560 --> 01:45:23,484 [BanKs] It's like six days until the tournament begins. 1783 01:45:23,465 --> 01:45:36,023 [BanKs] there's a media day in there and then obviously the travel day after this but there's there's still potential for this team like playoffs again look at that how you can roll it at a deeper tournament also 1784 01:45:30,534 --> 01:45:31,451 [Devilwalk] Thank you. 1785 01:45:36,188 --> 01:45:44,149 [BanKs] If they play to the level we saw at Blast, then this tournament should be one of those ones where they should be saying to themselves, we can lock in this spot. 1786 01:45:44,270 --> 01:45:47,760 [BanKs] I expect Nature to play even better against this level of opposition. 1787 01:45:47,841 --> 01:45:49,404 [BanKs] This is where he was farming before. 1788 01:45:48,101 --> 01:46:01,268 [Devilwalk] I'm looking at the bracket and it's like, oh, if you see opening group A, that's a very, very, very hard group. 1789 01:45:57,974 --> 01:45:59,117 [BanKs] Yeah, it's good potential. 1790 01:46:04,909 --> 01:46:05,591 [BanKs] They can beat Payne. 1791 01:46:06,632 --> 01:46:07,414 [BanKs] Then they play foot. 1792 01:46:07,855 --> 01:46:08,537 [BanKs] They lose the foot. 1793 01:46:09,516 --> 01:46:17,134 [Devilwalk] He's back for this? 1794 01:46:10,421 --> 01:46:13,368 [BanKs] By the way, oh, to say this, could we get on the foot very soon? 1795 01:46:14,170 --> 01:46:14,832 [BanKs] I confirmed it. 1796 01:46:14,971 --> 01:46:15,814 [BanKs] Lowndes is back. 1797 01:46:17,413 --> 01:46:18,074 [BanKs] Yeah, he's back for this. 1798 01:46:18,877 --> 01:46:19,097 [Devilwalk] Nice. 1799 01:46:19,498 --> 01:46:21,243 [BanKs] Lance is back for this, so it's really positive for them. 1800 01:46:22,765 --> 01:46:24,970 [BanKs] Do you think FaZe can make playoffs, though, in that group? 1801 01:46:26,494 --> 01:46:28,539 [Devilwalk] It's very difficult for them. 1802 01:46:28,217 --> 01:46:29,060 [BanKs] Vitality. 1803 01:46:28,560 --> 01:46:28,739 [Devilwalk] Uh... 1804 01:46:30,204 --> 01:46:37,114 [Devilwalk] The thing is, I could see them only really getting the lower final. 1805 01:46:31,284 --> 01:46:32,127 [BanKs] Foot. 1806 01:46:32,186 --> 01:46:32,266 [BanKs] Oof. 1807 01:46:37,646 --> 01:46:51,521 [BanKs] I think Foot's too disciplined to be surprised by that. 1808 01:46:40,059 --> 01:46:40,760 [Devilwalk] Realistically. 1809 01:46:40,880 --> 01:46:44,284 [Devilwalk] But, you know, maybe they can surprise a foot. 1810 01:46:45,988 --> 01:46:46,469 [Devilwalk] Maybe. 1811 01:46:48,891 --> 01:46:49,512 [Devilwalk] But... 1812 01:46:51,720 --> 01:46:56,475 [Devilwalk] Yeah, I think Vitality and Foot are probably guaranteed in this upper final. 1813 01:46:57,979 --> 01:47:02,452 [Devilwalk] And the lower final could maybe be a phase bet boom. 1814 01:47:01,019 --> 01:47:04,430 [BanKs] Up in the air. 1815 01:47:02,471 --> 01:47:05,460 [Devilwalk] Something along those lines. 1816 01:47:04,451 --> 01:47:04,992 [BanKs] Obey. 1817 01:47:05,814 --> 01:47:06,076 [BanKs] Yeah. 1818 01:47:07,180 --> 01:47:07,461 [BanKs] Yeah. 1819 01:47:07,902 --> 01:47:08,463 [BanKs] Yeah. 1820 01:47:09,422 --> 01:47:24,106 [BanKs] all right well we'll go next on to bait as i just mentioned them as well they are in a situation where this is a great event for them ahead of the major um obviously rio was pretty bad wasn't wasn't pretty um 1821 01:47:13,591 --> 01:47:23,550 [Devilwalk] Yep. 1822 01:47:23,569 --> 01:47:30,283 [Devilwalk] Wasn't pretty. 1823 01:47:25,301 --> 01:47:27,225 [BanKs] But Sizzy is warming up. 1824 01:47:27,246 --> 01:47:30,354 [BanKs] And it's just about understanding how this team wants to play. 1825 01:47:30,634 --> 01:47:36,367 [BanKs] And obviously, I've kept saying it for a long time, but I still believe in this Sizzy guy. 1826 01:47:36,386 --> 01:47:37,550 [BanKs] I still think he can do well. 1827 01:47:37,770 --> 01:47:42,121 [BanKs] And farming this lower tier opponents, I expect him to dominate. 1828 01:47:41,012 --> 01:47:56,877 [Devilwalk] It should have plenty of history. 1829 01:47:42,520 --> 01:47:44,525 [BanKs] And he's like, what's their opening game? 1830 01:47:44,506 --> 01:47:45,707 [BanKs] They're going up against Betboom. 1831 01:47:45,787 --> 01:47:47,051 [BanKs] That's a good game. 1832 01:47:47,291 --> 01:47:48,172 [BanKs] That's a good game. 1833 01:47:51,639 --> 01:47:54,984 [BanKs] They've got a history playing against each other in some lower CCT finals. 1834 01:47:56,006 --> 01:47:57,189 [BanKs] They beat him last year. 1835 01:47:57,350 --> 01:47:57,911 [BanKs] A year ago. 1836 01:47:57,930 --> 01:47:58,612 [BanKs] A year ago. 1837 01:47:58,652 --> 01:48:01,957 [BanKs] They've not played in the last year. 1838 01:48:03,253 --> 01:48:04,958 [BanKs] Obviously, that was with Hedrick playing back then as well. 1839 01:48:05,329 --> 01:48:10,643 [Devilwalk] But it's also a better betboom and a better bait compared to a year ago. 1840 01:48:10,682 --> 01:48:18,882 [Devilwalk] It's a very spicy opening. 1841 01:48:11,318 --> 01:48:13,585 [BanKs] They've both won some Tier 2 LAN tournaments. 1842 01:48:14,796 --> 01:48:18,045 [BanKs] So they're kind of a spicy opening match for these guys. 1843 01:48:19,106 --> 01:48:20,770 [BanKs] Yeah, that's what I want to watch. 1844 01:48:20,810 --> 01:48:23,457 [BanKs] That's the first opening game that's got me interested. 1845 01:48:24,262 --> 01:48:26,186 [Devilwalk] You're not watching Vital DBC game? 1846 01:48:27,506 --> 01:48:31,135 [BanKs] You're watching for obvious reasons, but I mean, you're not going to pay too much attention to it, are you? 1847 01:48:31,917 --> 01:48:37,128 [Devilwalk] No. 1848 01:48:32,532 --> 01:48:34,095 [BanKs] Like you just, you're going to have it on. 1849 01:48:34,135 --> 01:48:36,399 [BanKs] You're going to know the result before it happens. 1850 01:48:37,149 --> 01:48:38,631 [Devilwalk] Oh, it's 5-0, close tab. 1851 01:48:37,181 --> 01:48:38,744 [BanKs] And maybe you get some simple highlights. 1852 01:48:39,305 --> 01:48:42,332 [BanKs] You get some nice simple highlight would be great. 1853 01:48:42,391 --> 01:48:43,134 [BanKs] Yeah, that's it. 1854 01:48:43,681 --> 01:48:43,761 [Devilwalk] No. 1855 01:48:43,782 --> 01:48:43,841 [Devilwalk] No. 1856 01:48:43,935 --> 01:48:46,119 [BanKs] That's it. 1857 01:48:46,100 --> 01:48:53,087 [BanKs] Okay, so maybe not a potential for playoffs, but a potential if they can get that first win over, bet boom obviously goes up quite a lot. 1858 01:48:53,574 --> 01:49:11,500 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 1859 01:48:55,518 --> 01:48:56,582 [BanKs] Legacy next. 1860 01:48:57,997 --> 01:49:02,105 [BanKs] Well, they've had a win in South America. 1861 01:49:02,606 --> 01:49:04,470 [BanKs] They won the Rush B Summit Season 3. 1862 01:49:05,132 --> 01:49:06,135 [BanKs] They did badly at Rio. 1863 01:49:06,877 --> 01:49:12,529 [BanKs] So if everything goes as it is, right, do well in their own scene, fail at Bucharest. 1864 01:49:12,694 --> 01:49:24,527 [Devilwalk] Thank you. 1865 01:49:12,796 --> 01:49:14,960 [BanKs] Fail at Rio, do well in their own scene. 1866 01:49:15,140 --> 01:49:16,503 [BanKs] So let's see. 1867 01:49:16,543 --> 01:49:19,009 [BanKs] Now they've got a point to prove and Atlanta's not difficult. 1868 01:49:19,470 --> 01:49:30,551 [BanKs] For the players they have and where we were so good on them last year, like, come on, this, this, not saying a playoff guaranteed, but they should be gunning for playoffs again. 1869 01:49:31,256 --> 01:49:33,002 [Devilwalk] They were kind of the foot of last year. 1870 01:49:34,126 --> 01:49:35,889 [BanKs] Yeah, not as exciting. 1871 01:49:35,427 --> 01:49:41,182 [Devilwalk] They were not as exciting, but still incredibly exciting to watch. 1872 01:49:39,936 --> 01:49:45,747 [BanKs] Exciting moments in the game, but they were never as decisive as Foot, you know? 1873 01:49:46,028 --> 01:49:51,578 [BanKs] Foot is a very decisive team where Legacy was always up in the air of what was going to happen, whether it was Lux leading or not. 1874 01:49:51,912 --> 01:50:06,917 [Devilwalk] yeah it is they got a I think they got a pretty good bracket to be honest they got M80 to start with Liquid Astralis after I can't fucking speak 1875 01:50:00,046 --> 01:50:00,354 [BanKs] Yeah. 1876 01:50:06,390 --> 01:50:07,573 [BanKs] Bro, you're done. 1877 01:50:07,613 --> 01:50:10,702 [BanKs] You're actually, you're drinking more water, but you are done. 1878 01:50:10,742 --> 01:50:11,604 [BanKs] You're a cook. 1879 01:50:11,623 --> 01:50:12,626 [BanKs] We've not even gone that long. 1880 01:50:13,228 --> 01:50:14,551 [BanKs] We're about to hit the two-hour mark. 1881 01:50:14,570 --> 01:50:17,438 [BanKs] Lucky it's not a completely crazy long podcast today. 1882 01:50:17,478 --> 01:50:18,359 [BanKs] Lucky we don't have a guest. 1883 01:50:18,186 --> 01:50:33,747 [Devilwalk] I'll try. 1884 01:50:20,104 --> 01:50:23,573 [BanKs] Survive, survive, survive. 1885 01:50:23,940 --> 01:50:28,721 [BanKs] Yeah, Legacy's mindset should be 100% going to playoffs, but it's not going to be easy. 1886 01:50:28,761 --> 01:50:30,970 [BanKs] And this will tell us a lot about them. 1887 01:50:31,533 --> 01:50:33,462 [BanKs] This will tell us a lot about them and where they're at. 1888 01:50:34,724 --> 01:50:45,291 [BanKs] we're still trying to learn about how it is with art because at the beginning we were so positive about it but it's not showing up in the same way um so from legacy to our last four teams we're gonna go with astralis 1889 01:50:42,622 --> 01:50:58,307 [Devilwalk] I don't think so. 1890 01:50:46,789 --> 01:50:49,958 [BanKs] Is this for you a playoff guaranteed team? 1891 01:50:49,979 --> 01:50:54,070 [BanKs] Because I think the first three teams, Vitality, Na'Vi and Futs, like guaranteed. 1892 01:50:54,091 --> 01:50:56,277 [BanKs] But Astralis, I'm not saying it's guaranteed at all. 1893 01:50:58,328 --> 01:50:59,229 [Devilwalk] I think... 1894 01:51:00,238 --> 01:51:12,172 [Devilwalk] They've shown that they can be, but it's been too, like I said earlier, they flip flop, they're not progressing in a way that's consistent. 1895 01:51:07,342 --> 01:51:07,743 [BanKs] Yeah. 1896 01:51:07,764 --> 01:51:18,432 [BanKs] 100%. 1897 01:51:12,153 --> 01:51:14,216 [Devilwalk] Does that make sense? 1898 01:51:14,237 --> 01:51:17,203 [Devilwalk] Like they're not consistently showing up in performances. 1899 01:51:17,663 --> 01:51:27,663 [Devilwalk] And that makes me worry for a bracket where you have a lot of teams hungry to kind of get a spot, hungry to play good on a day. 1900 01:51:27,644 --> 01:51:39,796 [Devilwalk] that might not be consistent themselves but they end up in a matchup where they have a bad start Astralis and their executes aren't working the calls aren't working their players aren't on point 1901 01:51:30,731 --> 01:51:31,076 [BanKs] Yeah. 1902 01:51:39,777 --> 01:51:50,800 [Devilwalk] I'd be scared going up against a starved liquid, a legacy who needs to prove themselves in the international scene again after, you know, kind of... 1903 01:51:50,779 --> 01:52:09,682 [Devilwalk] failing the expectations to some degree and M80 who has been gone for a long time you have Sinners, Gamer Legion in the group who I could all pretty much all teams in this group I could see beating Astralis in the day 1904 01:51:56,045 --> 01:52:13,546 [BanKs] That's scary. 1905 01:52:11,823 --> 01:52:14,661 [Devilwalk] And that's a very very scary prospect. 1906 01:52:15,367 --> 01:52:20,519 [BanKs] I will say that Liquid should be a comfortable team for them. 1907 01:52:21,159 --> 01:52:30,421 [BanKs] My eyes were on Ryu just because he had a bad tournament in Fort Worth and we were so hyped about his individual skill and dominance he showed at the beginning of joining Astralis. 1908 01:52:30,402 --> 01:52:33,592 [BanKs] And jl saying like how hard this guy works how much he grinds. 1909 01:52:34,074 --> 01:52:40,497 [BanKs] It's like maybe he's overthinking things now So i'm really looking at him to because he's gonna go up against the leisure early on, you know 1910 01:52:41,371 --> 01:52:43,454 [BanKs] That's a mechanically gifted and sharp player. 1911 01:52:41,471 --> 01:52:51,600 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 1912 01:52:43,694 --> 01:52:47,041 [BanKs] Let's see if you can shut him down because if he gets hot hands and gets going, that's a problem. 1913 01:52:47,362 --> 01:52:48,262 [BanKs] Same for Malbz even. 1914 01:52:48,363 --> 01:52:52,210 [BanKs] So if Ryu's going to have to put himself to the test straight away up against that Liquid. 1915 01:52:53,712 --> 01:52:55,515 [BanKs] All right, next is Foot. 1916 01:52:57,279 --> 01:52:59,363 [BanKs] I feel like now they've got Lowndes back. 1917 01:53:00,439 --> 01:53:04,247 [BanKs] This is, like, I'm sure they're flying. 1918 01:53:01,233 --> 01:53:03,898 [Devilwalk] It's the upper final white healthy foot. 1919 01:53:03,917 --> 01:53:04,746 [Devilwalk] 100%. 1920 01:53:04,287 --> 01:53:07,354 [BanKs] I'm sure they flew him out early, by the way, so he's adjusted. 1921 01:53:07,635 --> 01:53:08,115 [BanKs] He's good. 1922 01:53:08,176 --> 01:53:09,859 [BanKs] His health's good now that he's coming back. 1923 01:53:10,341 --> 01:53:16,573 [BanKs] And this is an event where, like, they should be looking at a grand final finish, maybe a top three, top four finish. 1924 01:53:16,594 --> 01:53:18,717 [BanKs] There was a third place decider here, so... 1925 01:53:19,627 --> 01:53:21,704 [BanKs] Yeah, I'm just obviously all positive about foot. 1926 01:53:22,731 --> 01:53:35,492 [Devilwalk] yeah it's gonna be exciting to see Vitality foot again but with let's see if your prediction were correct from the start yeah 1927 01:53:31,591 --> 01:53:50,662 [BanKs] yeah yeah we'll actually see the real match the real match um second is navi probably make a grand final again unless they get upset along the way should be a very comfortable game for them as long as they don't take any opponents lightly until they get to vitality you know yeah 1928 01:53:48,247 --> 01:54:05,243 [Devilwalk] They've shown consistency and I have no doubts in them, their ability to at least win their Group B. 1929 01:53:55,873 --> 01:54:08,685 [BanKs] yeah and then last but not least vitality obviously they should be the overall winners for the event on paper how this all works but it comes into this is such a lesser of an event 1930 01:54:08,664 --> 01:54:11,671 [BanKs] of team quality, how did they handle that? 1931 01:54:11,712 --> 01:54:15,860 [BanKs] Because now they're going to, I heard it in all the interviews, they're going to chill for a few more days. 1932 01:54:15,981 --> 01:54:18,287 [BanKs] Messi and Apex are going to New York for a bit of a chill. 1933 01:54:16,579 --> 01:54:30,740 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 1934 01:54:18,969 --> 01:54:21,554 [BanKs] Flamesy's going walking through some mountains somewhere, you know? 1935 01:54:21,854 --> 01:54:23,297 [BanKs] They're not going to be playing CS again, bro. 1936 01:54:23,578 --> 01:54:24,902 [BanKs] They're going to be chilling. 1937 01:54:24,881 --> 01:54:26,305 [BanKs] They'll come back and play a few days. 1938 01:54:26,746 --> 01:54:28,168 [BanKs] They deserve the break. 1939 01:54:28,189 --> 01:54:29,733 [BanKs] I'm not doubting that at all. 1940 01:54:30,134 --> 01:54:36,327 [BanKs] But they are chilling so hard going into this event that they're going to be bringing their B or C game for those opening group stage games. 1941 01:54:36,667 --> 01:54:38,832 [BanKs] They're not going to get upset by a BC game. 1942 01:54:39,132 --> 01:54:39,935 [BanKs] I'll say it here now. 1943 01:54:39,192 --> 01:54:46,975 [Devilwalk] Thank you. 1944 01:54:40,395 --> 01:54:41,658 [BanKs] But I do think that... 1945 01:54:43,815 --> 01:54:49,948 [BanKs] I would say it's going to be how quickly can they learn to adjust to such lower down teams when you meet them? 1946 01:54:51,091 --> 01:54:54,137 [BanKs] Because it's not the same as playing teams you regularly see in the top 16. 1947 01:54:56,202 --> 01:54:59,177 [Devilwalk] Well, I mean, for Vitality, I'm not worried. 1948 01:54:59,500 --> 01:55:02,938 [Devilwalk] Even if they take these kinds of breaks, not worried. 1949 01:54:59,930 --> 01:55:00,171 [BanKs] Okay. 1950 01:55:04,876 --> 01:55:23,121 [Devilwalk] It's not the skill of Vitality players that is that scary, it's how well they interconnect and how they are as a team, how fast they respond to situations, how they adjust, how well they play 3v3 situations or xvx. 1951 01:55:13,752 --> 01:55:28,082 [BanKs] Yeah. 1952 01:55:25,716 --> 01:55:42,476 [Devilwalk] that doesn't disappear I think that kind of problem solving still is in them no matter what the only thing you might be able to say is they're not gonna be as sharp individually but yeah 1953 01:55:40,515 --> 01:55:40,993 [BanKs] Yeah. 1954 01:55:43,823 --> 01:55:48,652 [Devilwalk] I'm sure there's going to be some rust, but at the end of the day, it's Vitality. 1955 01:55:48,671 --> 01:55:50,975 [Devilwalk] It's the best team in Counter-Strike history. 1956 01:55:51,476 --> 01:55:52,759 [Devilwalk] I don't have any doubts of them. 1957 01:55:54,542 --> 01:55:56,465 [Devilwalk] Even if they would lose a game, they'll make playoffs. 1958 01:55:56,546 --> 01:56:00,212 [Devilwalk] They'll grind their way into a grand final, and they'll probably win it. 1959 01:56:02,453 --> 01:56:03,175 [BanKs] Most likely. 1960 01:56:03,496 --> 01:56:06,203 [BanKs] If everything is to go as it's supposed to go, then probably. 1961 01:56:06,243 --> 01:56:10,376 [BanKs] Let's go down our predictions because we do have the opening matchups for Atlanta. 1962 01:56:06,671 --> 01:56:17,448 [Devilwalk] We went with Vitality. 1963 01:56:10,515 --> 01:56:13,023 [BanKs] So first game is Vitality BC game. 1964 01:56:13,765 --> 01:56:14,707 [BanKs] Vitality, right? 1965 01:56:17,438 --> 01:56:30,012 [BanKs] um bait bet boom i went for bait i believe in the sissy magic you went okay okay um pain phase i think we both chose phase 1966 01:56:23,817 --> 01:56:24,698 [Devilwalk] Batboom! 1967 01:56:30,431 --> 01:56:33,536 [Devilwalk] Yeah, I was pleasantly surprised what I saw from FaZe. 1968 01:56:33,555 --> 01:56:40,345 [Devilwalk] And I think they can kind of snowball with this positive feeling into this event. 1969 01:56:41,619 --> 01:56:47,215 [BanKs] NRG foot, double foot, all the feet, all the feet. 1970 01:56:45,412 --> 01:56:46,835 [Devilwalk] Double foot. 1971 01:56:46,854 --> 01:56:48,356 [Devilwalk] Yeah, we're feet people. 1972 01:56:49,981 --> 01:56:53,712 [BanKs] Free feet pics at foot events for the future. 1973 01:56:54,474 --> 01:56:54,914 [BanKs] There you go. 1974 01:56:56,018 --> 01:56:57,721 [BanKs] Navi passion, Navi Navi. 1975 01:56:59,626 --> 01:57:18,715 [Devilwalk] yeah I'm a little bit it's a toss up for me 1976 01:56:59,743 --> 01:57:00,889 [BanKs] Now, I'm surprised this one. 1977 01:57:00,948 --> 01:57:04,444 [BanKs] I thought you might have gone for Sinners in the game of Legion of Sinners, but you went Game of Legion. 1978 01:57:05,328 --> 01:57:06,112 [BanKs] Okay. 1979 01:57:06,131 --> 01:57:06,412 [BanKs] Okay. 1980 01:57:09,396 --> 01:57:13,444 [BanKs] Yeah, I think it's all about how much we saw from Game of Legion. 1981 01:57:13,484 --> 01:57:20,796 [BanKs] I picked Game of Legion as well, but how much we saw from Game of Legion during Fort Worth, how that can carry through and if it's possible. 1982 01:57:21,757 --> 01:57:23,000 [BanKs] Oh, Legacy M80. 1983 01:57:23,161 --> 01:57:24,502 [BanKs] I went M80. 1984 01:57:25,462 --> 01:57:26,243 [Devilwalk] I want legacy. 1985 01:57:28,329 --> 01:57:32,360 [BanKs] You think Legacy's clash of styles is then their way of doing it, you know? 1986 01:57:31,113 --> 01:57:31,493 [Devilwalk] I don't know. 1987 01:57:31,514 --> 01:57:35,581 [Devilwalk] I'm just in love with art being in legacy kind of deal. 1988 01:57:33,583 --> 01:57:34,065 [BanKs] Okay. 1989 01:57:34,787 --> 01:57:35,448 [BanKs] Okay. 1990 01:57:35,600 --> 01:57:37,564 [Devilwalk] I just want to see it work out. 1991 01:57:39,600 --> 01:57:40,483 [BanKs] Liquid Astralis. 1992 01:57:41,592 --> 01:57:42,795 [Devilwalk] I put Astralis. 1993 01:57:43,011 --> 01:57:59,738 [BanKs] up at australis as well an overall winner to win the whole tournament oh hmm foots rv no it's vitality double vitality should we predict who will go through though on the playoffs yeah 1994 01:57:52,867 --> 01:58:06,234 [Devilwalk] Fatality for both Let me actually just put up the tournament page again and I will say 1995 01:58:03,920 --> 01:58:11,738 [BanKs] Yep. 1996 01:58:08,122 --> 01:58:11,048 [Devilwalk] Vitality in foot through the upper final. 1997 01:58:11,952 --> 01:58:14,457 [Devilwalk] Foot loses comes quarter. 1998 01:58:15,628 --> 01:58:15,769 [BanKs] Mm-hmm. 1999 01:58:16,884 --> 01:58:23,159 [Devilwalk] And then we have a bet boom. 2000 01:58:24,979 --> 01:58:36,569 [Devilwalk] I think it's going to be between FaZe and Batboom in the lower finals. 2001 01:58:37,390 --> 01:58:40,238 [Devilwalk] And I will say FaZe. 2002 01:58:40,724 --> 01:58:42,707 [BanKs] Okay, I'm going to do exactly the same as you. 2003 01:58:42,728 --> 01:58:43,930 [BanKs] I can't even be interesting. 2004 01:58:44,390 --> 01:58:46,935 [BanKs] Vitality, semis, foot phase, quarters. 2005 01:58:47,435 --> 01:58:48,738 [BanKs] So I'll do Group B first. 2006 01:58:48,878 --> 01:58:52,425 [BanKs] I think Na'Vi go through to the semis. 2007 01:58:53,287 --> 01:58:59,037 [BanKs] I think Astralis will join them there and end up in the quarters. 2008 01:58:58,966 --> 01:59:10,489 [Devilwalk] Really? 2009 01:58:59,387 --> 01:59:07,989 [BanKs] But I feel like we will get a M80 joining and getting a little deep run and having the other quarter spot from that lower final. 2010 01:59:10,510 --> 01:59:12,975 [Devilwalk] You're big on M80. 2011 01:59:11,056 --> 01:59:11,337 [BanKs] Yeah. 2012 01:59:13,715 --> 01:59:14,076 [BanKs] I don't know. 2013 01:59:14,095 --> 01:59:17,503 [BanKs] I just feel like they're a team, especially in America, that could do well. 2014 01:59:17,524 --> 01:59:20,712 [BanKs] And we also need one American representation for the Atlanta event shortly. 2015 01:59:21,376 --> 01:59:28,449 [Devilwalk] Is this just like follows maxing? 2016 01:59:26,003 --> 01:59:28,128 [BanKs] Yes, the Americans, of course. 2017 01:59:28,470 --> 01:59:29,731 [Devilwalk] Yes, you need Americans. 2018 01:59:30,434 --> 01:59:34,841 [Devilwalk] I'm not a big fan of M80, but it's been a long time since I saw them play. 2019 01:59:34,862 --> 01:59:37,426 [Devilwalk] I don't really know what to expect. 2020 01:59:37,744 --> 01:59:39,789 [BanKs] But I predict them to beat Legacy anyway, right? 2021 01:59:39,810 --> 01:59:40,733 [BanKs] So I expect them to beat that. 2022 01:59:40,225 --> 01:59:41,487 [Devilwalk] Yeah, that's true. 2023 01:59:40,752 --> 01:59:44,161 [BanKs] Then they lose to Astralis and they go through the lower semis and the lower final. 2024 01:59:45,072 --> 01:59:49,880 [Devilwalk] I'll say Navi Astralis in the upper. 2025 01:59:50,618 --> 01:59:50,757 [BanKs] Mm-hmm. 2026 01:59:53,425 --> 01:59:58,453 [Devilwalk] But I think it's going to be Gamer Legion or Sinners on lower. 2027 02:00:00,373 --> 02:00:03,222 [Devilwalk] They might even meet each other there because there's swap slides. 2028 02:00:03,243 --> 02:00:12,712 [Devilwalk] So the bracket, because of how lower works, I'll say a Sinner's Gamer Legion lower final where Gamer Legion takes it. 2029 02:00:12,997 --> 02:00:14,123 [BanKs] Oh, okay. 2030 02:00:14,144 --> 02:00:15,552 [BanKs] Believe in another game of Legion Run. 2031 02:00:15,573 --> 02:00:17,082 [BanKs] So almost similar to what we saw in Fort Worth. 2032 02:00:17,103 --> 02:00:19,597 [BanKs] Bit of recency bias in there as well. 2033 02:00:19,003 --> 02:00:28,997 [Devilwalk] Yes, 100%. 2034 02:00:20,792 --> 02:00:23,078 [BanKs] But that is the end of our IEM Atlanta preview. 2035 02:00:23,118 --> 02:00:27,405 [BanKs] Actually, when we've done this preview, I said it's the lesser of two events, which it is. 2036 02:00:27,667 --> 02:00:28,547 [BanKs] There's lesser teams here. 2037 02:00:29,310 --> 02:00:33,798 [BanKs] But it is exciting to see some of these teams that will be at the major competing in an event like this, at least. 2038 02:00:33,819 --> 02:00:36,002 [BanKs] So that can make it more fun to give us a test. 2039 02:00:36,023 --> 02:00:37,666 [BanKs] And there's plenty of games with it as well. 2040 02:00:37,806 --> 02:00:38,547 [BanKs] So... 2041 02:00:38,528 --> 02:00:58,274 [BanKs] let's see i hope there'll be a lot of people in the arena as well for atlanta to obviously make up for what we saw in fort worth and for the american audience as well and last but certainly not least it is time for the preview of pgl astana we're going back to lovely astana kazakhstan the event last time was phenomenal 2042 02:00:39,591 --> 02:00:49,737 [Devilwalk] Thank you. 2043 02:00:58,255 --> 02:01:14,104 [BanKs] um i got to stand on stage in that awesome shopan the outfit that i was rocking and wearing um yeah yeah let's well of course i still have i never get rid of any of that stuff i've got every all of these different outfits you've seen me and i still have i'm always prepared for us to come back also 2044 02:01:01,984 --> 02:01:04,007 [Devilwalk] Oh yeah, I was about to ask you. 2045 02:01:04,028 --> 02:01:06,231 [Devilwalk] Do you still have it? 2046 02:01:09,377 --> 02:01:09,537 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 2047 02:01:13,443 --> 02:01:18,711 [Devilwalk] How many extra rooms do you have in your house with just Banks' outfits? 2048 02:01:18,978 --> 02:01:21,002 [BanKs] I have more clothes than my wife has. 2049 02:01:21,042 --> 02:01:24,307 [BanKs] I have more space for wardrobes than my wife has. 2050 02:01:24,347 --> 02:01:25,168 [BanKs] That's for sure. 2051 02:01:25,489 --> 02:01:29,658 [BanKs] But think how big my suits are, plus then these other outfits and things, you know? 2052 02:01:29,238 --> 02:01:48,529 [Devilwalk] You might have to move your streaming like setup like one inch forward and just cover the back with just your clothes. 2053 02:01:29,877 --> 02:01:33,064 [BanKs] Like, it's... And we've now got the babies. 2054 02:01:33,144 --> 02:01:34,827 [BanKs] When we go back to Ukraine, like... 2055 02:01:35,717 --> 02:01:55,279 [BanKs] i'm gonna have to give up some space somewhere because there's definitely two wardrobes in the baby's room that are full of my clothes right now i'll stop to the side of clothes uh no i got i got i'm cooking i got enough space in mine you've seen the attic right i'm streaming from i should use one side of it to put it all in so 2056 02:01:53,335 --> 02:02:06,854 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 2057 02:01:55,259 --> 02:01:58,246 [BanKs] Yeah, there's a lot to do with it, but I have a lot. 2058 02:01:59,228 --> 02:01:59,770 [BanKs] I'll say this. 2059 02:01:59,850 --> 02:02:00,891 [BanKs] Obviously, it's my first event. 2060 02:02:00,952 --> 02:02:01,613 [BanKs] I'm going to be back. 2061 02:02:01,713 --> 02:02:11,917 [BanKs] So all that hype that you saw was missing on stages from recent Counter-Strike events, I am bringing it back with all this energy, with all this dad buff energy all the way because I am... 2062 02:02:11,898 --> 02:02:14,922 [BanKs] I've been watching events, right, and I've been thinking, damn, I wish I was there. 2063 02:02:15,083 --> 02:02:17,507 [BanKs] Like, you know, you have that, you're missing out. 2064 02:02:17,929 --> 02:02:20,833 [BanKs] And obviously, I love the stage so much and bringing all the energy and hype. 2065 02:02:21,335 --> 02:02:29,708 [BanKs] Trust me, this has now been building up, building up, and I'm just going to explode when it comes to a start-up because I know how good that crowd was last time. 2066 02:02:30,149 --> 02:02:31,171 [BanKs] Also... 2067 02:02:31,320 --> 02:02:50,426 [BanKs] the fact with this crowd is like last time around it was like we had me and the guys speaking russian and you know doing it because obviously even though you have the kazakh language they had um russian in the arena because they speak russian as well being x what is i know you call it an ex-russian country would they would they i'm gonna let's make sure i don't guess right yeah 2068 02:02:42,560 --> 02:02:49,630 [Devilwalk] USSR? 2069 02:02:50,233 --> 02:02:50,814 [Devilwalk] Soviet? 2070 02:02:52,481 --> 02:02:55,011 [BanKs] They were part of the USSR, right? 2071 02:02:55,934 --> 02:02:56,395 [BanKs] Yes, it was. 2072 02:02:56,676 --> 02:02:57,319 [BanKs] Unlucky for them. 2073 02:02:57,600 --> 02:03:00,048 [BanKs] So sad times for Kazakhstan, but now they're free, at least. 2074 02:03:00,069 --> 02:03:02,677 [BanKs] I... 2075 02:03:02,658 --> 02:03:04,162 [BanKs] This time, it's all English. 2076 02:03:04,202 --> 02:03:08,052 [BanKs] And I know some people who come to a lot of events, like they're at clones and Katowice's. 2077 02:03:08,635 --> 02:03:09,457 [BanKs] They've already messaged me. 2078 02:03:09,597 --> 02:03:13,689 [BanKs] They're coming from Europe to Asana because of how good it was and also how good the team list is. 2079 02:03:14,069 --> 02:03:17,460 [BanKs] On top of that, it's a $1.6 million prize pool. 2080 02:03:17,439 --> 02:03:32,681 [BanKs] that's way beyond what normally pgl and other stuff's doing so astana's cooking man and the team list we've got is actually nuts and with no vitality there this really opens up a lot of it because obviously pgl have the best format they now have the best teams 2081 02:03:32,762 --> 02:03:35,186 [BanKs] outside of Vitality and Na'Vi skipping it. 2082 02:03:35,568 --> 02:03:36,710 [BanKs] Let me give you the rundown. 2083 02:03:37,029 --> 02:03:43,661 [BanKs] Furia, Spirit, Aurora, Falcons of Kerrigan, Mongols, ParaVision, Mouz, G2. 2084 02:03:37,605 --> 02:03:38,605 [Devilwalk] Thank you. 2085 02:03:44,221 --> 02:03:45,444 [BanKs] Look at that top eight already. 2086 02:03:45,604 --> 02:03:47,547 [BanKs] Remember, eight teams go to playoffs. 2087 02:03:47,528 --> 02:03:52,076 [BanKs] 9Z, Monty, Heroic, Gentlemates, Fisher College. 2088 02:03:52,095 --> 02:03:53,037 [BanKs] We'll get onto that later on. 2089 02:03:53,378 --> 02:03:56,023 [BanKs] K27, which used to be Kazakhstan team. 2090 02:03:56,043 --> 02:03:57,907 [BanKs] There's not a single Kazakhstan player on there. 2091 02:03:57,926 --> 02:03:58,728 [BanKs] This just made me sad. 2092 02:03:59,248 --> 02:04:00,511 [BanKs] Magic and then the Huns. 2093 02:03:59,610 --> 02:04:08,828 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 2094 02:04:01,292 --> 02:04:04,018 [BanKs] This is epic. 2095 02:04:03,997 --> 02:04:14,599 [BanKs] some of the lower down teams like they came through to qualify so they'll see they grind their way for it not not the best teams i'll say but there's some very exciting ones in here um 2096 02:04:14,578 --> 02:04:15,943 [BanKs] Obviously, it's got a third place decider. 2097 02:04:15,962 --> 02:04:17,126 [BanKs] It's got an eight teams playoff. 2098 02:04:17,206 --> 02:04:19,332 [BanKs] Everyone's starting from the quarters, working their way through. 2099 02:04:19,372 --> 02:04:23,463 [BanKs] As of when we're doing this episode, the matchups have not been given to us as yet. 2100 02:04:23,484 --> 02:04:27,255 [BanKs] PTR always give the matchups very later on. 2101 02:04:25,226 --> 02:04:40,688 [Devilwalk] Controllers is back. 2102 02:04:27,234 --> 02:04:29,640 [BanKs] So we'll quickly run down some of the teams we have here. 2103 02:04:29,720 --> 02:04:30,943 [BanKs] We'll do this a little bit faster. 2104 02:04:30,962 --> 02:04:32,286 [BanKs] Like the Huns, for example. 2105 02:04:32,627 --> 02:04:34,190 [BanKs] It's like the other Mongolian side. 2106 02:04:34,731 --> 02:04:36,414 [BanKs] I last saw them at the Budapest Major. 2107 02:04:36,475 --> 02:04:40,704 [BanKs] Obviously, they've been grinding for a lot of these low... 2108 02:04:40,685 --> 02:04:54,997 [BanKs] yes controllers is back we get to see good old controllers again me and nine i spoke to him so much during the budapest major um we even talking on instagram a bit now i love this guy he's like a player that like 2109 02:04:49,612 --> 02:05:07,317 [Devilwalk] Thank you. 2110 02:04:54,978 --> 02:04:59,083 [BanKs] He believes in his team, believes in his own ability and really wants to go far. 2111 02:04:59,104 --> 02:05:03,131 [BanKs] So like, this is a team I'm going to have a soft spot on for the whole event. 2112 02:05:03,591 --> 02:05:05,914 [BanKs] Obviously, they qualified to here throughout the closed qualifier. 2113 02:05:05,954 --> 02:05:11,524 [BanKs] They went through PGL Astana East Asia closed qualifier, PGL Astana Asia closed qualifier. 2114 02:05:10,452 --> 02:05:22,824 [Devilwalk] Thank you. 2115 02:05:11,984 --> 02:05:14,167 [BanKs] They just played one match and then that was it. 2116 02:05:14,148 --> 02:05:15,412 [BanKs] I don't know how this works. 2117 02:05:16,694 --> 02:05:17,698 [BanKs] There's three teams. 2118 02:05:18,399 --> 02:05:22,612 [BanKs] So Ground Zero played another team first, Depo, and then they beat Depo. 2119 02:05:22,652 --> 02:05:27,465 [BanKs] Depo was a two Kazakhstan players and three Uzbekistan players. 2120 02:05:27,613 --> 02:05:32,841 [Devilwalk] But this might just be what HLTV is covering. 2121 02:05:31,140 --> 02:05:31,782 [BanKs] Just covering. 2122 02:05:32,103 --> 02:05:33,527 [BanKs] Yeah, yeah, yeah. 2123 02:05:33,362 --> 02:05:45,859 [Devilwalk] It's like the quarterfinals of the open qualifiers or whatever. 2124 02:05:33,546 --> 02:05:34,247 [BanKs] True, true, true. 2125 02:05:38,016 --> 02:05:38,557 [BanKs] I'll say this. 2126 02:05:38,738 --> 02:05:44,532 [BanKs] Huns may be like the lowest ranked place team here, but I don't think they'll be going out in last place. 2127 02:05:46,076 --> 02:05:46,737 [BanKs] I believe in none. 2128 02:05:48,978 --> 02:05:49,378 [BanKs] That's it. 2129 02:05:49,365 --> 02:05:49,766 [Devilwalk] All right. 2130 02:05:49,418 --> 02:05:49,979 [BanKs] That's all I got. 2131 02:05:50,239 --> 02:05:50,862 [BanKs] That's all I got. 2132 02:05:50,389 --> 02:05:51,270 [Devilwalk] Okay. 2133 02:05:51,042 --> 02:05:52,845 [BanKs] I don't expect you to have much, but that's it. 2134 02:05:51,291 --> 02:05:51,652 [Devilwalk] All right. 2135 02:05:51,912 --> 02:05:52,132 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 2136 02:05:52,864 --> 02:05:53,326 [BanKs] That's it. 2137 02:05:53,697 --> 02:05:54,859 [Devilwalk] Sure, you go for it, man. 2138 02:05:57,935 --> 02:06:00,520 [BanKs] Next, you got no comments on the Huns, but you know nothing. 2139 02:06:01,355 --> 02:06:03,801 [Devilwalk] I mean, I'm excited to see them. 2140 02:06:04,684 --> 02:06:06,328 [Devilwalk] I think they always... 2141 02:06:05,389 --> 02:06:07,171 [BanKs] It's Mazzini's older brother, man. 2142 02:06:07,641 --> 02:06:14,765 [Devilwalk] Yeah, you have Bartek, you have Score, you have Nine, you're obviously watching the IHC lineup. 2143 02:06:08,300 --> 02:06:09,769 [BanKs] Bartak, let's go. 2144 02:06:09,788 --> 02:06:13,652 [BanKs] Yep. 2145 02:06:17,057 --> 02:06:18,100 [Devilwalk] It's an interesting team. 2146 02:06:18,520 --> 02:06:29,057 [Devilwalk] I think they always seem to have like a map where they look like they can be a par with some of the big teams or big names. 2147 02:06:28,398 --> 02:06:32,551 [BanKs] Yep. 2148 02:06:29,538 --> 02:06:31,662 [Devilwalk] But they always seem to fall flat a little bit. 2149 02:06:32,583 --> 02:06:33,024 [Devilwalk] So... 2150 02:06:34,591 --> 02:06:36,938 [Devilwalk] I think this is kind of a good proving ground for them. 2151 02:06:37,238 --> 02:06:43,778 [Devilwalk] It is Swiss format, so they'll at least have, you know, three best of threes. 2152 02:06:44,300 --> 02:06:46,005 [Devilwalk] Because they're not doing best of ones, right? 2153 02:06:47,720 --> 02:06:49,342 [BanKs] No, of course, there's no better ones than PGL. 2154 02:06:49,293 --> 02:06:49,494 [Devilwalk] No. 2155 02:06:49,984 --> 02:06:50,845 [BanKs] Never, never, never, never. 2156 02:06:52,106 --> 02:06:52,868 [Devilwalk] So that's great. 2157 02:06:53,230 --> 02:07:03,805 [Devilwalk] It's great experience for some of these teams, especially in the lower downpool where they can grind, they can face some good opposition, and they get a lot of LAN experience going here, so... 2158 02:07:04,432 --> 02:07:04,512 [BanKs] Yep. 2159 02:07:06,198 --> 02:07:08,360 [Devilwalk] Obviously harder to kind of upset. 2160 02:07:08,381 --> 02:07:12,546 [Devilwalk] I don't expect the Huns to be making playoff or anything like that. 2161 02:07:13,228 --> 02:07:18,856 [Devilwalk] Yes, they can make it past last place like you expect. 2162 02:07:19,377 --> 02:07:24,324 [Devilwalk] But I feel like you've been hyping them up a little bit more than just last place dodge. 2163 02:07:22,617 --> 02:07:25,721 [BanKs] Wait, we've got Controllers, 9, and Score. 2164 02:07:25,943 --> 02:07:26,764 [BanKs] Come on, man. 2165 02:07:26,804 --> 02:07:29,609 [BanKs] There's a world where some magic is going to happen here. 2166 02:07:29,628 --> 02:07:30,831 [BanKs] I will say something's confusing me. 2167 02:07:30,850 --> 02:07:32,413 [BanKs] I'm going to have to check out when I get to the event. 2168 02:07:32,975 --> 02:07:34,596 [BanKs] Before 9 was the in-game leader. 2169 02:07:34,877 --> 02:07:36,640 [BanKs] Now it says Captain Controllers. 2170 02:07:37,301 --> 02:07:40,407 [BanKs] Why would Controllers go and become the in-game leader? 2171 02:07:40,640 --> 02:07:45,412 [Devilwalk] He's just stolen all the Mongols' tactics and he's just like, you don't know what I know. 2172 02:07:40,807 --> 02:07:42,010 [BanKs] I'm not sure. 2173 02:07:41,989 --> 02:07:49,283 [BanKs] He's like, I went through a quarterfinals of a major. 2174 02:07:50,164 --> 02:07:50,886 [Devilwalk] What have you done? 2175 02:07:51,447 --> 02:07:51,887 [BanKs] Yeah, yeah. 2176 02:07:52,127 --> 02:07:53,631 [BanKs] No, the controller is not that guy. 2177 02:07:53,671 --> 02:07:54,493 [BanKs] He would never do that. 2178 02:07:54,417 --> 02:07:54,497 [Devilwalk] Wow. 2179 02:07:54,592 --> 02:07:57,677 [BanKs] But, yeah, I'm going to have to check that out. 2180 02:07:57,698 --> 02:07:59,601 [BanKs] I'm going to have to understand how that's all working. 2181 02:08:00,422 --> 02:08:01,364 [BanKs] So... 2182 02:08:01,783 --> 02:08:18,966 [BanKs] next team magic they qualified through europe closed qualifier now this is what's crazy right the europe closed qualifier was mainly russian teams i will a hundred thieves and then magic magic isn't actually a russian team but it is a bella russian 2183 02:08:02,122 --> 02:08:18,662 [Devilwalk] It's kind of Russian. 2184 02:08:19,097 --> 02:08:22,846 [BanKs] A Ukrainian, a Russian, a Kazakhstani, and a Russian. 2185 02:08:21,764 --> 02:08:33,275 [Devilwalk] I think it's just Russian teams win all the open qualifiers which has been a tradition since the dawn of time 2186 02:08:23,588 --> 02:08:26,435 [BanKs] So it kind of is almost, I don't know how that counts as Europe, boys. 2187 02:08:26,456 --> 02:08:27,979 [BanKs] You got one Ukrainian in there. 2188 02:08:30,405 --> 02:08:30,947 [BanKs] Yeah. 2189 02:08:33,542 --> 02:08:36,248 [BanKs] Where was the rest of the teams who came through this qualifier? 2190 02:08:36,449 --> 02:08:41,421 [BanKs] How are other European teams not competing in this qualifier to do well? 2191 02:08:41,591 --> 02:08:58,099 [Devilwalk] I'm gonna 2192 02:08:41,721 --> 02:08:45,992 [BanKs] The amount of teams in these qualifiers, I'm looking at them, the team names are terrible. 2193 02:08:47,395 --> 02:08:48,417 [BanKs] What the hell is this? 2194 02:08:48,597 --> 02:08:51,585 [BanKs] Inner Circle Academy was in one, not even the main Inner Circle roster. 2195 02:08:52,948 --> 02:08:54,893 [BanKs] So this is, yeah, like, eh. 2196 02:08:57,037 --> 02:08:58,761 [BanKs] Poor Devices team didn't do well at that point. 2197 02:08:58,921 --> 02:09:00,425 [BanKs] This is all the way back in March as well. 2198 02:09:04,193 --> 02:09:07,018 [BanKs] So, yeah, I'm going to say Magic could be one of those teams. 2199 02:09:07,059 --> 02:09:07,819 [BanKs] It's got AW. 2200 02:09:07,832 --> 02:09:13,224 [Devilwalk] Sorry, I lost. 2201 02:09:07,859 --> 02:09:09,203 [BanKs] He was on Power Vision before, right? 2202 02:09:12,136 --> 02:09:12,596 [BanKs] Am I right? 2203 02:09:12,617 --> 02:09:13,136 [BanKs] Was it AW? 2204 02:09:13,398 --> 02:09:13,859 [BanKs] Yeah, he was. 2205 02:09:14,920 --> 02:09:15,341 [BanKs] What's up? 2206 02:09:15,360 --> 02:09:16,021 [BanKs] You lost where we are? 2207 02:09:16,911 --> 02:09:17,773 [Devilwalk] Yeah, AW. 2208 02:09:18,225 --> 02:09:19,908 [BanKs] Yeah, AW was on PowerVision before. 2209 02:09:20,559 --> 02:09:20,779 [Devilwalk] Yep. 2210 02:09:20,988 --> 02:09:23,533 [BanKs] Up until December 2025, until this year, and they started winning. 2211 02:09:25,095 --> 02:09:29,001 [BanKs] But yeah, the Magic team, probably a 0-3 contender. 2212 02:09:29,220 --> 02:09:30,262 [BanKs] Just going to throw it out there. 2213 02:09:30,748 --> 02:09:33,974 [Devilwalk] Such a 90s logo and jersey. 2214 02:09:34,698 --> 02:09:36,242 [BanKs] Like a basketball jersey, right? 2215 02:09:35,938 --> 02:09:41,367 [Devilwalk] Yeah, like... Very, very 90s. 2216 02:09:37,505 --> 02:09:37,725 [BanKs] Yeah, yeah. 2217 02:09:38,247 --> 02:09:38,707 [BanKs] I saw that. 2218 02:09:39,288 --> 02:09:39,810 [BanKs] I saw that. 2219 02:09:42,757 --> 02:09:44,201 [BanKs] Bro, and this is K23. 2220 02:09:44,301 --> 02:09:45,945 [BanKs] Oh, it's K20. 2221 02:09:46,105 --> 02:09:47,248 [BanKs] They're called K27. 2222 02:09:47,269 --> 02:09:50,336 [BanKs] K23 is the Kazakhstan team. 2223 02:09:48,658 --> 02:09:48,859 [Devilwalk] Ah. 2224 02:09:50,697 --> 02:09:52,622 [BanKs] That's why I was getting confused. 2225 02:09:52,213 --> 02:10:10,341 [Devilwalk] yeah. 2226 02:09:52,720 --> 02:09:55,306 [BanKs] Yeah, K23 is the Kazakhstani organization. 2227 02:09:55,346 --> 02:09:58,595 [BanKs] Okay, these guys just stole the name that I don't know where the hell this came from. 2228 02:09:59,497 --> 02:10:00,900 [BanKs] But they've got good old Balbina. 2229 02:10:01,002 --> 02:10:03,408 [BanKs] He's had a good amount of teams under him as a coach. 2230 02:10:04,390 --> 02:10:06,336 [BanKs] Wait, mate, look back at his teams. 2231 02:10:06,456 --> 02:10:09,143 [BanKs] Yeah, Amka, he was at Power Vision a long time ago. 2232 02:10:10,844 --> 02:10:11,565 [BanKs] He's been around. 2233 02:10:12,127 --> 02:10:13,411 [BanKs] So do you know what's crazy? 2234 02:10:13,511 --> 02:10:15,997 [BanKs] This K27 team is fame. 2235 02:10:16,018 --> 02:10:21,230 [BanKs] And then there's the X5G7V, which is like the Steam ID guy. 2236 02:10:21,251 --> 02:10:23,556 [BanKs] Do you remember him? 2237 02:10:23,738 --> 02:10:24,921 [BanKs] We used to call him Steam ID. 2238 02:10:25,238 --> 02:10:32,092 [Devilwalk] Steam ID, yeah. 2239 02:10:26,335 --> 02:10:26,936 [BanKs] Yep. 2240 02:10:26,957 --> 02:10:27,418 [BanKs] Zeddo. 2241 02:10:27,439 --> 02:10:29,065 [BanKs] Oh, bro. 2242 02:10:29,627 --> 02:10:31,615 [BanKs] This team is completely out of left field. 2243 02:10:32,177 --> 02:10:33,020 [BanKs] I don't... 2244 02:10:32,252 --> 02:10:43,939 [Devilwalk] It's a very... He's on loan. 2245 02:10:33,591 --> 02:10:37,182 [BanKs] I don't care if Fame is in-game leader or not. 2246 02:10:37,243 --> 02:10:43,663 [BanKs] He is doing the interview with me and we're going to find out how he ended up on this bad position of his career. 2247 02:10:44,667 --> 02:10:46,672 [BanKs] Yeah, but this is rough, man. 2248 02:10:48,373 --> 02:10:51,079 [Devilwalk] Well, I mean, there's still 37 in the VRS. 2249 02:10:51,140 --> 02:10:52,002 [Devilwalk] It's not that bad. 2250 02:10:53,132 --> 02:10:54,117 [BanKs] Okay, but what farm? 2251 02:10:54,136 --> 02:10:56,043 [BanKs] Did they play some Russian lands? 2252 02:10:56,987 --> 02:10:57,188 [BanKs] No? 2253 02:10:58,635 --> 02:10:58,876 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 2254 02:10:59,756 --> 02:10:59,997 [BanKs] Yeah? 2255 02:11:00,198 --> 02:11:00,538 [Devilwalk] I guess. 2256 02:11:01,301 --> 02:11:01,621 [Devilwalk] I don't know. 2257 02:11:02,145 --> 02:11:03,109 [BanKs] I'm looking at the results. 2258 02:11:02,743 --> 02:11:02,944 [Devilwalk] What? 2259 02:11:03,565 --> 02:11:06,230 [Devilwalk] Cislan Season 4? 2260 02:11:07,003 --> 02:11:12,770 [Devilwalk] That's how I pronounce the... I don't know how to say that. 2261 02:11:12,791 --> 02:11:16,086 [Devilwalk] It's M-P-K-B-K C-I-S-L-A-N. 2262 02:11:15,373 --> 02:11:16,015 [BanKs] Oh, my God. 2263 02:11:16,315 --> 02:11:17,056 [BanKs] Oh, my God. 2264 02:11:17,077 --> 02:11:17,578 [BanKs] Yeah, yeah. 2265 02:11:17,618 --> 02:11:18,740 [BanKs] Okay, that was fourth place. 2266 02:11:19,823 --> 02:11:21,005 [BanKs] It's not going to jump me up that high. 2267 02:11:21,064 --> 02:11:27,377 [BanKs] Okay, this bottom part of this, this is why I'm saying the Huns aren't finishing last, man. 2268 02:11:28,078 --> 02:11:30,783 [BanKs] They're beating Magic or K27, whoever they may get. 2269 02:11:31,860 --> 02:11:32,662 [BanKs] That's no problem. 2270 02:11:31,927 --> 02:11:32,350 [Devilwalk] Okay. 2271 02:11:33,024 --> 02:11:33,845 [BanKs] That's no problem. 2272 02:11:34,806 --> 02:11:36,251 [BanKs] The next one we can come on to, though. 2273 02:11:36,270 --> 02:11:37,252 [BanKs] We're skipping past these. 2274 02:11:37,273 --> 02:11:42,625 [BanKs] This is like... So I feel weird about starting now because this top is so stacked. 2275 02:11:38,153 --> 02:11:39,457 [Devilwalk] Yeah, it's true. 2276 02:11:42,984 --> 02:11:45,971 [BanKs] But this bit is like... 2277 02:11:46,744 --> 02:11:47,586 [BanKs] How did you get here? 2278 02:11:47,926 --> 02:11:52,533 [BanKs] K27, by the way, is a replacement team for who? 2279 02:11:52,573 --> 02:11:55,898 [BanKs] Who are they a replacement team for? 2280 02:11:58,541 --> 02:12:01,085 [BanKs] It says they're a replacement team, but who are they replacing? 2281 02:12:03,198 --> 02:12:05,623 [Devilwalk] I don't know. 2282 02:12:05,331 --> 02:12:06,271 [BanKs] They came second. 2283 02:12:07,922 --> 02:12:09,770 [BanKs] This makes no sense. 2284 02:12:10,854 --> 02:12:13,083 [BanKs] I'm going to have some undercover work to do. 2285 02:12:10,957 --> 02:12:15,266 [Devilwalk] But it might be another team that didn't show up. 2286 02:12:13,123 --> 02:12:15,233 [BanKs] Yeah. 2287 02:12:16,850 --> 02:12:23,761 [BanKs] Either way, I'll just say that it's good we do have qualifiers for this, but European teams, you need to get to work and qualify for this. 2288 02:12:24,524 --> 02:12:26,567 [BanKs] Like this is a $1.6 million event. 2289 02:12:26,667 --> 02:12:27,890 [BanKs] Why would you not be trying to qualify? 2290 02:12:27,949 --> 02:12:29,351 [BanKs] Why have you allowed this to happen? 2291 02:12:29,493 --> 02:12:31,917 [BanKs] Why have you allowed this lower down teams to get this far? 2292 02:12:33,038 --> 02:12:33,619 [BanKs] Oh my God. 2293 02:12:33,960 --> 02:12:34,841 [BanKs] It's kind of rough, man. 2294 02:12:36,037 --> 02:12:38,166 [BanKs] I might be being overly harsh, but yeah. 2295 02:12:37,537 --> 02:12:50,029 [Devilwalk] Either way, we have Fisher College, which has Nealon, Thor, Alex, Creepo, and Korn. 2296 02:12:40,114 --> 02:12:44,814 [BanKs] Yeah, fish... Well... 2297 02:12:45,030 --> 02:12:54,238 [BanKs] Let's... So our producer, he was saying like, oh, Fisher College is like this team with like college people that come through and they like... He was explaining to us. 2298 02:12:54,658 --> 02:12:57,065 [BanKs] And me and you both had like some thoughts on this, right? 2299 02:12:57,145 --> 02:12:58,128 [BanKs] Because... 2300 02:12:58,109 --> 02:13:01,216 [BanKs] I don't know about anyone else in the industry, but both of us had a message. 2301 02:13:01,296 --> 02:13:12,319 [BanKs] My first message was October 24th, 2023 from a... I'm not even going to give too much promotion, but it's a Twitter account called Esportian, Esports Scholarships. 2302 02:13:12,338 --> 02:13:14,363 [BanKs] Now, bear in mind, 2023... 2303 02:13:14,342 --> 02:13:18,170 [BanKs] I was 33 when they sent this message, and they said, Hello, Banks Esports. 2304 02:13:18,591 --> 02:13:24,582 [BanKs] We are Esportsian, a company dedicated to managing esports scholarships for studying in the United States. 2305 02:13:21,363 --> 02:13:40,265 [Devilwalk] Oh. 2306 02:13:24,983 --> 02:13:31,574 [BanKs] We are currently recruiting Valorant players to join major US universities and compete in college esports leagues. 2307 02:13:31,555 --> 02:13:35,944 [BanKs] Based on our assessment, your profile appears to align with the requirements for fall 2024. 2308 02:13:36,024 --> 02:13:43,719 [BanKs] We would like to inquire if you are interested in receiving more information for us. 2309 02:13:44,140 --> 02:13:45,762 [BanKs] These dumb motherfuckers. 2310 02:13:46,439 --> 02:13:47,601 [Devilwalk] You wanna hear my message? 2311 02:13:46,585 --> 02:13:47,606 [BanKs] First of all... 2312 02:13:48,127 --> 02:13:49,743 [BanKs] Yeah, please, just copy and paste. 2313 02:13:49,764 --> 02:13:52,128 [BanKs] It's exactly the same, surely. 2314 02:13:50,648 --> 02:13:53,654 [Devilwalk] Hey Devilwalk, I'm Mauricio from Esportian. 2315 02:13:54,155 --> 02:13:58,466 [Devilwalk] I wanted to reach out because we've been really impressed by your skills in CS. 2316 02:13:59,708 --> 02:14:05,983 [Devilwalk] Your gameplay stands out and we'd be thrilled to consider you for our scholarship program. 2317 02:14:06,318 --> 02:14:15,056 [Devilwalk] We are dedicated to supporting outstanding players like you in combining competitive esports with a university education. 2318 02:14:15,537 --> 02:14:22,351 [Devilwalk] We believe your profile has tremendous potential both in-game and academically. 2319 02:14:19,514 --> 02:14:31,092 [BanKs] Mate, they must be getting paid... 2320 02:14:22,332 --> 02:14:28,351 [Devilwalk] If you're interested, I'd be happy to connect and walk you through the exciting opportunities we can offer. 2321 02:14:29,796 --> 02:14:34,452 [Devilwalk] I basically answered, I am unsure what this really means. 2322 02:14:34,550 --> 02:14:35,372 [BanKs] You're too nice. 2323 02:14:35,592 --> 02:14:39,585 [BanKs] I cannot tell you what I responded. 2324 02:14:39,685 --> 02:14:41,310 [BanKs] I cannot leak what I responded. 2325 02:14:42,278 --> 02:14:53,030 [Devilwalk] they said Valorant for you yeah 2326 02:14:42,332 --> 02:14:44,761 [BanKs] It's not cancelable, but it's very bad how I responded. 2327 02:14:44,820 --> 02:14:46,766 [BanKs] Like I was not on a good mood when they sent me this. 2328 02:14:47,068 --> 02:14:48,171 [BanKs] Because... 2329 02:14:50,057 --> 02:14:50,939 [BanKs] Yeah, exactly why. 2330 02:14:50,958 --> 02:14:52,280 [BanKs] You can imagine what my response is. 2331 02:14:53,002 --> 02:14:55,525 [BanKs] So these messages continue, by the way. 2332 02:14:55,586 --> 02:14:56,307 [BanKs] Hello again. 2333 02:14:56,328 --> 02:15:03,979 [BanKs] I'm following up to know if you're interested in combining your studies, bachelor or master degrees while working in a North American esports programs, USA and Canada. 2334 02:15:04,300 --> 02:15:07,685 [BanKs] I'm wondering if these dumb motherfuckers get paid money for this, right? 2335 02:15:08,005 --> 02:15:09,787 [BanKs] To just bring people in. 2336 02:15:08,552 --> 02:15:23,018 [Devilwalk] Thank you. 2337 02:15:09,768 --> 02:15:10,750 [BanKs] and to make stuff happen. 2338 02:15:10,770 --> 02:15:16,579 [BanKs] By the way, for everyone watching and just laughing along with this right now, this will all make sense to you in a bit because we're going to tie this into the next team. 2339 02:15:17,140 --> 02:15:18,923 [BanKs] These messages continue, by the way. 2340 02:15:20,367 --> 02:15:22,591 [BanKs] James, I appreciate your response. 2341 02:15:22,751 --> 02:15:27,960 [BanKs] Your profile would not match with this opportunity as you described because I obviously responded with what my age was as well. 2342 02:15:28,520 --> 02:15:29,042 [BanKs] Then, 2343 02:15:29,832 --> 02:15:32,577 [BanKs] Less than six months later, hello there, friend. 2344 02:15:32,877 --> 02:15:33,639 [BanKs] Nice to meet you. 2345 02:15:33,920 --> 02:15:40,672 [BanKs] I'm Alejandro, active in Collegiate Esports and Partnerships Manager at, by the way, he can't even spell. 2346 02:15:35,890 --> 02:15:54,270 [Devilwalk] Thank you. 2347 02:15:40,853 --> 02:15:41,795 [BanKs] This is great. 2348 02:15:41,956 --> 02:15:42,978 [BanKs] He's onto a bad start. 2349 02:15:42,997 --> 02:15:44,279 [BanKs] I didn't even flag this at the time. 2350 02:15:44,260 --> 02:15:47,346 [BanKs] I'd really like to explore how we can collaborate and learn from each other. 2351 02:15:47,386 --> 02:15:48,689 [BanKs] Would you be free for a bit? 2352 02:15:48,791 --> 02:15:49,912 [BanKs] And I obviously didn't respond. 2353 02:15:50,474 --> 02:15:52,399 [BanKs] Then we go to 2025. 2354 02:15:52,680 --> 02:15:54,103 [BanKs] So we've skipped ahead now. 2355 02:15:55,064 --> 02:15:55,546 [BanKs] Hi, James. 2356 02:15:55,626 --> 02:15:56,529 [BanKs] I hope you're doing well. 2357 02:15:56,680 --> 02:16:14,722 [Devilwalk] There was no exploring. 2358 02:15:56,949 --> 02:15:59,576 [BanKs] My name is Attila and I'm a recruiter. 2359 02:15:59,636 --> 02:16:01,881 [BanKs] By the way, the only Attila I know is Attila the Hun. 2360 02:16:04,595 --> 02:16:06,099 [BanKs] I'm a recruiter for Esportian. 2361 02:16:06,118 --> 02:16:10,289 [BanKs] I noticed you were previously in talks with my colleagues about exploring opportunities in gaming and academics. 2362 02:16:10,470 --> 02:16:11,172 [BanKs] I was not. 2363 02:16:11,594 --> 02:16:14,622 [BanKs] There was no conversation I had with you idiots. 2364 02:16:15,884 --> 02:16:22,282 [BanKs] As we continue recruitment for 2025, I was curious to hear how those conversations were and if there's anything I can do to further assist you. 2365 02:16:22,301 --> 02:16:24,287 [BanKs] It's like, did you not read the DMs? 2366 02:16:24,307 --> 02:16:28,600 [BanKs] The DMs show, like, how can you not see that I already been through all this with you morons? 2367 02:16:29,041 --> 02:16:29,622 [BanKs] Yeah? 2368 02:16:29,603 --> 02:16:31,587 [BanKs] And then I literally even responded on this one. 2369 02:16:30,920 --> 02:16:38,415 [Devilwalk] Thank you. 2370 02:16:31,828 --> 02:16:32,950 [BanKs] I have laughing faces. 2371 02:16:33,012 --> 02:16:34,415 [BanKs] I'm sorry, but who is running this account? 2372 02:16:34,434 --> 02:16:35,959 [BanKs] Do you guys just copy and paste message? 2373 02:16:35,998 --> 02:16:37,683 [BanKs] I've even replied to you two years ago. 2374 02:16:37,722 --> 02:16:38,845 [BanKs] You should have known better than this. 2375 02:16:38,865 --> 02:16:39,788 [BanKs] Like, who are you messaging? 2376 02:16:39,828 --> 02:16:40,250 [BanKs] What is this? 2377 02:16:40,309 --> 02:16:41,371 [BanKs] Are you an AI bot? 2378 02:16:41,391 --> 02:16:44,440 [BanKs] Like I literally just... 2379 02:16:44,420 --> 02:16:46,665 [BanKs] Then we got another one, DevWalk. 2380 02:16:47,025 --> 02:16:47,507 [BanKs] Hi, James. 2381 02:16:47,528 --> 02:16:51,056 [BanKs] We've been looking through Counter-Strike profiles today for our 2027 scholarships. 2382 02:16:51,176 --> 02:16:52,700 [BanKs] So they're still trying to get me now, DevWalk. 2383 02:16:52,503 --> 02:16:54,834 [Devilwalk] This is the one I got after as well. 2384 02:16:52,739 --> 02:16:53,743 [BanKs] This is 2026. 2385 02:16:55,126 --> 02:16:55,788 [BanKs] So you got the same. 2386 02:16:55,827 --> 02:16:59,997 [BanKs] Most players with your dedication to the game... 2387 02:17:01,513 --> 02:17:15,472 [BanKs] your dedication to the game don't realize that us universities actually scouting for the exact kind of competitive experience right now we've helped over 200 players turn their grind into 55 to 100 scholarships 2388 02:17:15,452 --> 02:17:25,782 [BanKs] i could pay for my education myself you out of curiosity have you ever looked into what your counter-strike stats would qualify you in the us like 2389 02:17:22,337 --> 02:17:42,253 [Devilwalk] also what your counter-strike stats in what 2390 02:17:25,763 --> 02:17:26,986 [BanKs] What are we doing? 2391 02:17:27,046 --> 02:17:31,755 [BanKs] Like, first of all, for any of you people out there, if you get a message like this, this is a scam. 2392 02:17:31,956 --> 02:17:32,697 [BanKs] Don't follow this. 2393 02:17:32,718 --> 02:17:34,300 [BanKs] This is nothing that you should be doing. 2394 02:17:34,320 --> 02:17:35,943 [BanKs] This sounds horrendous. 2395 02:17:36,065 --> 02:17:38,709 [BanKs] Whatever college program they're trying to put you in, this is not great. 2396 02:17:42,604 --> 02:17:44,327 [BanKs] Yeah, by the way, what stats are they looking at? 2397 02:17:44,308 --> 02:18:02,824 [Devilwalk] what's that no but this is like okay so I think I got let's see here I just need to find them again 2398 02:17:44,388 --> 02:17:48,094 [BanKs] Because first of all, this is where they're lying because they said about you, right? 2399 02:17:48,135 --> 02:17:49,698 [BanKs] Like you don't post your clips. 2400 02:17:49,718 --> 02:17:51,140 [BanKs] You're not posting anything on your play. 2401 02:17:51,240 --> 02:17:55,188 [BanKs] Other than that, remember that funny clip you had with me where you got like that 1v4 or 1v5? 2402 02:18:02,060 --> 02:18:02,621 [BanKs] Oh. 2403 02:18:06,027 --> 02:18:07,068 [Devilwalk] Where the fuck did I put them? 2404 02:18:06,449 --> 02:18:07,993 [BanKs] I can't man, I can't. 2405 02:18:07,109 --> 02:18:07,329 [Devilwalk] Here. 2406 02:18:07,370 --> 02:18:11,860 [Devilwalk] So the first message I got was October 10th, 2025. 2407 02:18:11,920 --> 02:18:16,351 [Devilwalk] First of all, I barely played CS during that period. 2408 02:18:16,691 --> 02:18:20,360 [Devilwalk] So it was a very confusing message to receive. 2409 02:18:20,399 --> 02:18:22,263 [Devilwalk] But 2410 02:18:21,684 --> 02:18:25,132 [BanKs] They're looking back at 2013, demos of yours. 2411 02:18:25,534 --> 02:18:27,799 [Devilwalk] And then the last one was in February. 2412 02:18:28,522 --> 02:18:30,125 [BanKs] This year, yeah, the same one I got, yep. 2413 02:18:29,989 --> 02:18:35,879 [Devilwalk] Well, I got another one, but this one was, hey, Devilwalk, Zoe from Esportian. 2414 02:18:35,898 --> 02:18:38,743 [Devilwalk] I noticed Mauricio messaged you a few months back. 2415 02:18:36,075 --> 02:18:36,698 [BanKs] Yep, Zoe. 2416 02:18:39,623 --> 02:18:43,709 [Devilwalk] We're starting our final push for 2027 Counter-Strike scholarships. 2417 02:18:44,031 --> 02:18:44,252 [BanKs] Yep. 2418 02:18:44,351 --> 02:18:48,656 [Devilwalk] I didn't want your profile to get lost in the shuffle from last year. 2419 02:18:48,637 --> 02:18:53,195 [Devilwalk] Are you still open to chatting about the US college opportunities? 2420 02:18:53,885 --> 02:19:10,070 [BanKs] I don't know someone again Americans you're gonna have to help us out this episode is your is your country that down bad that you're trying to import European old men to come and compete in your college programs because bro I looked on their Twitter and it says we get asked a bit too often 2421 02:19:10,050 --> 02:19:11,574 [BanKs] So what do you actually do? 2422 02:19:11,613 --> 02:19:13,838 [BanKs] We do the whole package. 2423 02:19:14,501 --> 02:19:16,123 [BanKs] Want to start your path to pro? 2424 02:19:16,344 --> 02:19:17,025 [BanKs] We got you. 2425 02:19:16,548 --> 02:19:17,175 [Devilwalk] Wow. 2426 02:19:17,066 --> 02:19:20,314 [BanKs] Want to get a degree and pay for it by gaming? 2427 02:19:20,674 --> 02:19:21,316 [BanKs] We got you. 2428 02:19:21,736 --> 02:19:24,162 [BanKs] Want to secure your future in esports, Sid? 2429 02:19:24,141 --> 02:19:39,972 [BanKs] you guessed it we got you check our bio what can esportium provide for you guaranteed university placement no one can guarantee that by the way these guys are just lying scholarships access both academic and esports based financial support 2430 02:19:39,497 --> 02:19:58,737 [Devilwalk] Thank you. 2431 02:19:39,952 --> 02:19:51,557 [BanKs] collegiate esports integration, compete for your team's school while earning your degree, dedicated academic support from application through to enrollment, visa support, guidance for international students. 2432 02:19:51,997 --> 02:19:53,540 [BanKs] I'm just going to say... 2433 02:19:53,521 --> 02:19:54,722 [BanKs] This must be a scam. 2434 02:19:55,103 --> 02:19:56,646 [BanKs] These guys sound like scammers. 2435 02:19:56,947 --> 02:19:59,191 [BanKs] They're probably getting paid for every person they put in there. 2436 02:19:59,591 --> 02:20:01,495 [BanKs] But, like, don't do this. 2437 02:20:02,717 --> 02:20:04,639 [BanKs] No good can come from this at all. 2438 02:20:04,980 --> 02:20:05,380 [BanKs] Nothing. 2439 02:20:05,582 --> 02:20:06,664 [BanKs] No good can come from this. 2440 02:20:06,683 --> 02:20:08,226 [BanKs] This is horrendous. 2441 02:20:08,265 --> 02:20:10,450 [BanKs] I've never seen anything so bad. 2442 02:20:10,430 --> 02:20:11,333 [BanKs] This can't be real. 2443 02:20:11,433 --> 02:20:16,426 [BanKs] This has to be someone who's like getting paid something for referrals. 2444 02:20:16,486 --> 02:20:19,856 [BanKs] You know, like referral free, you get 5% for every referral. 2445 02:20:18,917 --> 02:20:19,762 [Devilwalk] Yeah, I don't know. 2446 02:20:20,707 --> 02:20:21,691 [Devilwalk] Very confusing. 2447 02:20:21,441 --> 02:20:21,721 [BanKs] Oh. 2448 02:20:21,711 --> 02:20:24,685 [Devilwalk] I haven't really... But we should probably move on. 2449 02:20:24,726 --> 02:20:26,093 [Devilwalk] Otherwise this episode... 2450 02:20:25,027 --> 02:20:25,448 [BanKs] Yeah. 2451 02:20:26,369 --> 02:20:29,796 [BanKs] So the reason we're linking that into it, we do actually have a team. 2452 02:20:29,976 --> 02:20:30,836 [BanKs] I don't know if they're from here. 2453 02:20:30,897 --> 02:20:32,120 [BanKs] I'm going to actually message Alex. 2454 02:20:32,139 --> 02:20:34,543 [BanKs] We know him and say, did you get picked up from this? 2455 02:20:34,564 --> 02:20:36,346 [BanKs] So Fisher College is at a start. 2456 02:20:36,407 --> 02:20:38,791 [BanKs] They qualified through the North American Clothes Qualifier. 2457 02:20:39,552 --> 02:20:40,555 [BanKs] So... 2458 02:20:40,534 --> 02:20:41,897 [BanKs] Yeah, make of that as you will. 2459 02:20:42,037 --> 02:20:58,611 [Devilwalk] Thank you. 2460 02:20:42,218 --> 02:20:48,391 [BanKs] The teams that were competing there is Lag, Farmville, Bossa, like M80 and the likes of that were not there anyway because they're going to Atlanta. 2461 02:20:48,471 --> 02:20:50,936 [BanKs] So they cleaned up this spot. 2462 02:20:51,378 --> 02:20:57,531 [BanKs] They're going with Nilan as the stand-in, Four, Alex, Creepow, and Korn. 2463 02:20:57,511 --> 02:21:10,474 [BanKs] just telling you on the main fisher college team there is one american called corn then it's crepo belgium refuser netherlands alex who we know from sweden and four from iceland 2464 02:21:04,327 --> 02:21:18,709 [Devilwalk] Thank you. 2465 02:21:10,453 --> 02:21:26,606 [BanKs] alex is 24 so he could still be in uni four is 25 i guess depending on what we're studying he could probably still be there um the rest of them are pretty young anyway so that's fine like they're they're making it but i'm excited to see alex again because you even coached him 2466 02:21:27,262 --> 02:21:37,272 [Devilwalk] Yeah, and gamers. 2467 02:21:28,966 --> 02:21:39,532 [BanKs] gamers our reality tv show i'm gonna have to ask him how did you go from reality tv show to this did you come through esportian did he come through esportian we need to figure this out um 2468 02:21:39,513 --> 02:21:44,505 [BanKs] He had some pretty impressive interviews, he said, for Dust2.us when he was at a recent LAN. 2469 02:21:45,208 --> 02:21:46,912 [BanKs] What LAN did Fisher College compete in? 2470 02:21:46,932 --> 02:21:47,995 [BanKs] I'll make sure I get this right. 2471 02:21:48,255 --> 02:21:48,576 [BanKs] Frag. 2472 02:21:48,836 --> 02:21:49,257 [BanKs] Frag one. 2473 02:21:50,441 --> 02:21:56,356 [BanKs] And he was saying he doesn't think the difference between them and other teams is going to be that high. 2474 02:21:56,843 --> 02:21:58,707 [BanKs] I think for the lower level teams, for sure. 2475 02:21:58,807 --> 02:22:09,030 [BanKs] But I don't know, you're probably not going to stand up too strong against the likes of like the 9Zs, Montees, Heroics, Genomates, and then everyone else above that is just going to absolutely obliterate you. 2476 02:21:59,476 --> 02:22:16,742 [Devilwalk] If I remember correctly, Alex had a stutter, which 2477 02:22:16,097 --> 02:22:17,240 [BanKs] Why are you just outing him? 2478 02:22:18,139 --> 02:22:21,568 [Devilwalk] Okay, maybe that was wrong. 2479 02:22:21,648 --> 02:22:24,977 [Devilwalk] But I remember he was incredible with it. 2480 02:22:27,023 --> 02:22:28,166 [Devilwalk] Because he used to... 2481 02:22:27,147 --> 02:22:32,402 [BanKs] Okay, you should have started with that, you know, because the beginning bit sounded really bad and now... 2482 02:22:31,808 --> 02:22:40,483 [Devilwalk] Okay, but okay, I will just say he used to call and communicate incredibly well in Counter-Strike. 2483 02:22:40,503 --> 02:22:50,340 [Devilwalk] And I was always super impressed with him because of him having a stutter, dealing with that, and still being able to be so well... 2484 02:22:47,688 --> 02:23:01,578 [BanKs] To come Yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah Mm-hmm 2485 02:22:50,319 --> 02:23:02,354 [Devilwalk] communicative as he was so he's always kind of had like a special kind of you know I remember him so vibrantly because of all of this 2486 02:23:02,334 --> 02:23:07,005 [Devilwalk] So I'm really excited to see what he kind of developed into as a player. 2487 02:23:07,066 --> 02:23:15,584 [Devilwalk] Maybe I started that sentence off wrong, but it comes from a good place, not shaming. 2488 02:23:14,079 --> 02:23:18,572 [BanKs] No, no, now it... The way you kind of put it all together was terrible. 2489 02:23:18,872 --> 02:23:20,798 [BanKs] The end part is a much nicer way of doing it. 2490 02:23:20,763 --> 02:23:21,626 [Devilwalk] Okay. 2491 02:23:21,158 --> 02:23:22,141 [BanKs] You will live and learn on this. 2492 02:23:22,201 --> 02:23:23,685 [BanKs] You are still Swedish, so it's fine. 2493 02:23:22,587 --> 02:23:22,769 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 2494 02:23:23,726 --> 02:23:24,629 [BanKs] You get away with these things. 2495 02:23:24,949 --> 02:23:26,814 [BanKs] What you actually said is really complimentary. 2496 02:23:26,854 --> 02:23:29,641 [BanKs] And, like, obviously when you do have these... 2497 02:23:29,621 --> 02:23:45,808 [BanKs] things that can hinder you especially in a game like counter-strike you can overcome it that on its own is impressive but i think i get to get a nice message from alex and um he said he was looking forward to seeing me again i said bloody oh it's been so long so yeah nilan's gonna be their fifth obviously nilan is a local kazakhstani representative as well so 2498 02:23:34,885 --> 02:23:35,024 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 2499 02:23:44,118 --> 02:23:54,583 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 2500 02:23:46,311 --> 02:23:49,558 [BanKs] I'm not going to say they're going to have much hope of getting through to the arenas. 2501 02:23:49,978 --> 02:23:53,766 [BanKs] But I mean, he's going to get some love and support anyway from just being from Kazakhstan. 2502 02:23:54,368 --> 02:23:57,273 [BanKs] So after that, we start going to more like the bigger teams. 2503 02:23:57,314 --> 02:24:00,540 [BanKs] We literally jump up from here, by the way, from... 2504 02:24:00,520 --> 02:24:05,730 [BanKs] We were down at 97th in the VRS and now we're jumping to 38 and it only gets higher from here. 2505 02:24:05,950 --> 02:24:08,717 [BanKs] That's when we started talking about the big teams coming in. 2506 02:24:09,198 --> 02:24:14,748 [BanKs] Gentlemen, this is something where they've been invited, they got accepted, 2507 02:24:14,728 --> 02:24:16,798 [BanKs] They've been falling down on the VRS. 2508 02:24:16,817 --> 02:24:20,875 [BanKs] They struggled massively at Rio, but this is a chance for them to 2509 02:24:21,665 --> 02:24:35,487 [BanKs] show us a bit more of what they can do and also like they don't have a coach right now i don't know who they're coming to this event with as a coach maybe they'll try someone out here so we'll get to learn that but we were before the major we actually had some hope for them before budapest major 2510 02:24:34,135 --> 02:24:34,461 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 2511 02:24:35,468 --> 02:24:43,065 [BanKs] And then now it's, I think it's my expectations slowed down a lot, but they are still Martinez, super exciting. 2512 02:24:43,766 --> 02:24:50,743 [BanKs] Like Martinez would be the person I would have said, if Sampias kept trailing, you'd replace Sampias with Martinez, do a swap. 2513 02:24:51,485 --> 02:24:52,987 [BanKs] But no, this is great. 2514 02:24:51,618 --> 02:25:03,962 [Devilwalk] I think he definitely, out of all the players in Gentlemates, I think Martinez is the one that has the potential to play in Tier 1 Counter-Strike. 2515 02:25:05,967 --> 02:25:10,756 [Devilwalk] He's flashy, he's good, he has X-Factor, he's good with rifles and AWPing. 2516 02:25:11,851 --> 02:25:17,641 [Devilwalk] But it's as you say, Gentle Mates have been kind of a rocky trend. 2517 02:25:17,682 --> 02:25:20,326 [Devilwalk] They looked great before that Budapest Major. 2518 02:25:20,346 --> 02:25:25,095 [Devilwalk] I think they were up at rank. 2519 02:25:20,795 --> 02:25:21,120 [BanKs] Yep. 2520 02:25:25,115 --> 02:25:26,218 [Devilwalk] Let me see here, actually. 2521 02:25:26,238 --> 02:25:30,686 [Devilwalk] They were around... Where are they, actually? 2522 02:25:31,966 --> 02:25:33,028 [Devilwalk] Where am I trying to look here? 2523 02:25:33,087 --> 02:25:33,288 [Devilwalk] Here. 2524 02:25:33,667 --> 02:25:42,261 [Devilwalk] They were around the 20 mark in VRS, and then kind of had a little bit of a downtrend, uptrend after that, and then massively downtrend again. 2525 02:25:42,922 --> 02:25:49,992 [Devilwalk] Now in 2026, dropping to 35, where they've been kind of hovering around the top 20 mark, so... 2526 02:25:42,951 --> 02:25:43,496 [BanKs] Mm hmm. 2527 02:25:50,849 --> 02:26:03,853 [Devilwalk] For them, this is a huge opportunity, huge tournament to kind of turn this ship around and prove to everyone at home, everyone watching, their fans and ourselves that they have what it takes. 2528 02:26:04,415 --> 02:26:09,786 [Devilwalk] They're not just going to be good for a month and then drop off again. 2529 02:26:09,765 --> 02:26:15,957 [Devilwalk] They have what it takes to beat some of these, you know, Heroics, Monty, 9Cs. 2530 02:26:17,713 --> 02:26:18,996 [BanKs] By the way, I just saw it. 2531 02:26:19,218 --> 02:26:21,985 [BanKs] K27 is attending PGL Astana because foot withdrew. 2532 02:26:22,004 --> 02:26:27,838 [BanKs] I wish it was another team from the... So they came because it was a qualifier. 2533 02:26:25,314 --> 02:26:25,614 [Devilwalk] Ah. 2534 02:26:27,859 --> 02:26:28,922 [BanKs] They replaced... 2535 02:26:29,375 --> 02:26:45,358 [BanKs] K27 came second so sadly they wouldn't normally be here but remember Foote double dipped in both events and then because they got their visas for America they went to they made the wrong decision they should have gone to Astana it's better teams they're better for the VRS but they can obviously do well in terms of prize winning stuff from Atlanta um 2536 02:26:35,702 --> 02:26:51,701 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 2537 02:26:45,337 --> 02:26:49,725 [BanKs] But also, I wish they just invited another team from higher up on the BRS rankings. 2538 02:26:49,745 --> 02:26:50,386 [BanKs] That would have been better. 2539 02:26:50,646 --> 02:26:52,189 [BanKs] I don't know how it fully works, to be honest. 2540 02:26:51,721 --> 02:26:51,822 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 2541 02:26:53,290 --> 02:26:56,174 [BanKs] You know, the next team we get to come on to, Heroic. 2542 02:26:57,255 --> 02:27:01,141 [BanKs] Bro, we're in Kazakhstan and Al-Kharen's still not here. 2543 02:26:57,539 --> 02:26:58,262 [Devilwalk] Interesting. 2544 02:27:01,162 --> 02:27:02,485 [BanKs] So we just know he's done for, right? 2545 02:27:02,504 --> 02:27:02,844 [BanKs] That's it. 2546 02:27:03,325 --> 02:27:04,747 [BanKs] He's never coming back to this team. 2547 02:27:05,301 --> 02:27:08,186 [BanKs] Yeah, yeah. 2548 02:27:05,737 --> 02:27:06,823 [Devilwalk] That's insane. 2549 02:27:08,506 --> 02:27:10,090 [BanKs] It says right now he's on the bench. 2550 02:27:10,891 --> 02:27:11,893 [BanKs] So he has been benched. 2551 02:27:13,194 --> 02:27:14,057 [BanKs] I don't know when it happened. 2552 02:27:17,423 --> 02:27:18,183 [BanKs] But he's been benched. 2553 02:27:19,021 --> 02:27:20,239 [Devilwalk] Is that 100%? 2554 02:27:20,788 --> 02:27:23,513 [BanKs] Well, it says on HLTV, Al-Kharen benched. 2555 02:27:24,622 --> 02:27:30,532 [BanKs] And he's going to stand in for Cybertroke at Nodwin Clutch S7. 2556 02:27:34,360 --> 02:27:41,584 [Devilwalk] Well, if he's not returning to the line of this event, I don't know. 2557 02:27:41,905 --> 02:27:44,774 [Devilwalk] It's probably, yeah, like you say, it's probably a goner. 2558 02:27:44,147 --> 02:27:47,898 [BanKs] Because they got the major, right? 2559 02:27:47,918 --> 02:27:49,645 [BanKs] So why would you... You can't play them in the major. 2560 02:27:49,764 --> 02:27:52,713 [BanKs] So I'm pulling up an interview here. 2561 02:27:53,697 --> 02:27:57,027 [BanKs] We're still... So this interview, this interview was... 2562 02:27:58,052 --> 02:27:58,957 [BanKs] April the 4th. 2563 02:27:59,337 --> 02:27:59,558 [BanKs] Yeah. 2564 02:28:00,120 --> 02:28:03,635 [BanKs] And it says, we're still waiting for Alcarin's situation overall. 2565 02:28:03,655 --> 02:28:08,333 [BanKs] And until there's news about that, we'll keep playing with Youngster, even though we're playing in Astana. 2566 02:28:08,313 --> 02:28:12,859 [BanKs] From a VRS perspective, it doesn't make so much sense only having him for X amount of games, you know. 2567 02:28:13,280 --> 02:28:17,986 [BanKs] So we'll hope to have him come back in full force before we can start using him. 2568 02:28:15,450 --> 02:28:15,929 [Devilwalk] Thank you. 2569 02:28:18,346 --> 02:28:19,989 [BanKs] Bro, he's never coming back. 2570 02:28:20,110 --> 02:28:22,894 [BanKs] If you can't fix his visa issues for this long, it's not happening. 2571 02:28:25,316 --> 02:28:26,658 [BanKs] I can't, like... 2572 02:28:27,094 --> 02:28:28,879 [BanKs] You've tanked so many VRS points. 2573 02:28:28,898 --> 02:28:31,063 [BanKs] You've actually still managed to stay within the top 20. 2574 02:28:31,222 --> 02:28:31,805 [BanKs] It's impressive. 2575 02:28:31,844 --> 02:28:32,505 [BanKs] I will give you that. 2576 02:28:32,826 --> 02:28:34,389 [BanKs] And you're now going to the major with Youngster. 2577 02:28:35,091 --> 02:28:37,175 [BanKs] Just keep Youngster because you're also hindering him. 2578 02:28:37,216 --> 02:28:37,476 [BanKs] Bro. 2579 02:28:37,978 --> 02:28:41,204 [Devilwalk] But, but, but, but, but, but, but, Youngster isn't an AWPer. 2580 02:28:38,257 --> 02:28:45,593 [BanKs] But if they now do him dirty, yeah? 2581 02:28:41,245 --> 02:28:55,009 [Devilwalk] I mean, I think Heroic should cut Youngster and get a real AWPer. 2582 02:28:45,573 --> 02:28:48,463 [BanKs] And after the major, they're just like, cut him and bring Alcarim back. 2583 02:28:48,646 --> 02:28:49,676 [BanKs] I'm just going to flip. 2584 02:28:55,309 --> 02:28:56,352 [BanKs] That's fine. 2585 02:28:56,573 --> 02:28:57,456 [BanKs] No problem with that. 2586 02:28:58,177 --> 02:29:02,408 [BanKs] But don't keep dangling the when and Alcarin comes back thing. 2587 02:29:01,755 --> 02:29:04,102 [Devilwalk] No, I think this is poor. 2588 02:29:02,629 --> 02:29:04,855 [BanKs] Because like, it's too long now. 2589 02:29:04,876 --> 02:29:06,259 [BanKs] This has been a whole season. 2590 02:29:06,340 --> 02:29:07,442 [BanKs] This has been six months. 2591 02:29:08,165 --> 02:29:10,550 [BanKs] Every event I've been at, the same questions, same shit. 2592 02:29:12,960 --> 02:29:23,798 [BanKs] all right such a joke all right like by the way the players the torch you're not a joke no no problem against you guys but the management and the visa issues you had with other players into this it's just a joke this is like unacceptable 2593 02:29:13,210 --> 02:29:14,314 [Devilwalk] Yeah, it's just stupid. 2594 02:29:23,372 --> 02:29:27,602 [Devilwalk] And it's so sad because I really wanted this heroic with Chrism. 2595 02:29:27,979 --> 02:29:47,337 [BanKs] yeah we liked chrism we still like chrism i mean but i mean like give him the chance to do well oh man yeah 2596 02:29:31,870 --> 02:29:35,398 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 2597 02:29:35,418 --> 02:29:42,073 [Devilwalk] But to be plagued with these issues and not really know what you're going to do next tournament and next tournament, next tournament... 2598 02:29:43,707 --> 02:29:44,290 [Devilwalk] That sucks. 2599 02:29:47,638 --> 02:30:02,525 [BanKs] um but they're still trotting along like they win some of these tier two events yeah they're second place at cct global finals beating big and monty then losing to monty in the finals for the ranked um star ladder event 2600 02:29:51,567 --> 02:29:51,709 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 2601 02:30:04,344 --> 02:30:06,164 [BanKs] They've just been trying to grind through events and points. 2602 02:30:06,184 --> 02:30:07,842 [BanKs] They've been playing a hell of a lot of CS. 2603 02:30:09,458 --> 02:30:24,885 [BanKs] um next one i'm by the way i'm not just because there's two brits on this team because i don't really know azubu i only know gizmi i'll get to meet azubu more in person at this event um i'm more of a gizmi fan but gizmi and b mass 2604 02:30:23,279 --> 02:30:24,227 [Devilwalk] Thank you. 2605 02:30:24,864 --> 02:30:25,665 [BanKs] These are my guys. 2606 02:30:25,685 --> 02:30:27,408 [BanKs] I've known BMass for so long now as well. 2607 02:30:28,110 --> 02:30:29,551 [BanKs] He even hosts me every now and again on stream. 2608 02:30:31,193 --> 02:30:32,755 [BanKs] They won CCT Global Finals. 2609 02:30:33,316 --> 02:30:34,638 [BanKs] They had a good run at that event. 2610 02:30:35,139 --> 02:30:36,400 [BanKs] Second place at Draguland. 2611 02:30:36,822 --> 02:30:38,623 [BanKs] This is a team that is exciting. 2612 02:30:38,745 --> 02:30:42,569 [BanKs] This is a team that's 18th on the VRS rankings right now. 2613 02:30:42,549 --> 02:30:49,522 [BanKs] This is a team that could upset a G2, a ParaVision, a Mongols, maybe even an Aurora or a Maus on any given day. 2614 02:30:50,523 --> 02:30:52,165 [BanKs] This is a dark horse team for this event. 2615 02:30:50,632 --> 02:30:52,596 [Devilwalk] A weak Furia, whatever. 2616 02:30:52,637 --> 02:30:58,188 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 2617 02:30:52,766 --> 02:30:55,130 [BanKs] Oh, bro, I just didn't even think about that. 2618 02:30:55,171 --> 02:30:57,876 [BanKs] Yeah, a Furia could definitely have a struggle against them. 2619 02:30:59,628 --> 02:31:01,832 [BanKs] This gets interesting. 2620 02:31:01,912 --> 02:31:03,354 [BanKs] This gets very interesting now. 2621 02:31:03,058 --> 02:31:09,250 [Devilwalk] I think they could be... I think they're definitely up there in playoff contention. 2622 02:31:10,188 --> 02:31:10,449 [BanKs] Yeah. 2623 02:31:12,813 --> 02:31:13,674 [BanKs] It's a big event for them. 2624 02:31:13,915 --> 02:31:14,936 [BanKs] Really big event for them. 2625 02:31:14,022 --> 02:31:15,424 [Devilwalk] But I'm also excited about them. 2626 02:31:15,604 --> 02:31:19,211 [Devilwalk] I think they've done so well every time they've shown themselves. 2627 02:31:20,073 --> 02:31:22,558 [Devilwalk] They've shown consistency in the tier 2 scene. 2628 02:31:22,577 --> 02:31:29,971 [Devilwalk] I think they kind of were a little bit disappointing in EPL. 2629 02:31:31,893 --> 02:31:34,120 [Devilwalk] They picked up a map against Na'Vi. 2630 02:31:35,042 --> 02:31:38,132 [Devilwalk] Almost beat them in the last map. 2631 02:31:38,474 --> 02:31:39,638 [Devilwalk] Lost to Legacy. 2632 02:31:39,897 --> 02:31:41,041 [Devilwalk] Lost to FaZe. 2633 02:31:42,777 --> 02:31:47,103 [Devilwalk] All closed games, but I hope they've learned something from that and kind of bring that into this. 2634 02:31:47,845 --> 02:31:52,474 [Devilwalk] And I think they'll be more ready for this level now. 2635 02:31:53,020 --> 02:31:53,962 [BanKs] Yeah, definitely. 2636 02:31:54,443 --> 02:31:55,005 [BanKs] Definitely. 2637 02:31:55,165 --> 02:32:01,784 [BanKs] I think they're getting so much experience at these different events that this is a team I'm hyped on to see in Astana. 2638 02:32:01,729 --> 02:32:01,950 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 2639 02:32:02,426 --> 02:32:03,349 [BanKs] And I still love the logo. 2640 02:32:03,569 --> 02:32:04,953 [BanKs] I just love the logo. 2641 02:32:04,933 --> 02:32:22,334 [BanKs] 9z next also a very exciting team especially considering like the fact that some of the players from Argentina I think it was Lutrov we saw many of highlights from him we've spoken about quite a while in general 2642 02:32:06,689 --> 02:32:20,034 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 2643 02:32:20,797 --> 02:32:24,664 [Devilwalk] Yeah, mayor. 2644 02:32:22,315 --> 02:32:23,236 [BanKs] Mayona as well. 2645 02:32:23,255 --> 02:32:24,198 [BanKs] Yeah, bro. 2646 02:32:24,218 --> 02:32:26,742 [BanKs] There's a DGT we knew from pain days. 2647 02:32:26,762 --> 02:32:28,084 [BanKs] Didn't live up to expectations there. 2648 02:32:28,283 --> 02:32:31,349 [BanKs] Max has been leading the charge for this team for a long, long time. 2649 02:32:31,140 --> 02:32:31,753 [Devilwalk] Thank you. 2650 02:32:31,369 --> 02:32:33,452 [BanKs] 9Z right now. 2651 02:32:33,974 --> 02:32:38,079 [BanKs] Where exactly is... I think 9Z is an Argentinian organization. 2652 02:32:40,185 --> 02:32:41,415 [BanKs] Yes, an Argentinian organization. 2653 02:32:41,456 --> 02:32:43,572 [BanKs] And that's where we're going to have a major next year as well. 2654 02:32:43,632 --> 02:32:45,909 [BanKs] So it's really good they're on a rise again. 2655 02:32:46,565 --> 02:32:50,513 [BanKs] First place in some of the South American events. 2656 02:32:50,894 --> 02:32:52,297 [BanKs] Second place in another one. 2657 02:32:52,677 --> 02:32:57,006 [BanKs] But they are competing very well against a good South American. 2658 02:32:55,102 --> 02:32:56,751 [Devilwalk] They have bit as a coach as well. 2659 02:32:56,771 --> 02:33:00,771 [Devilwalk] 10 months ago. 2660 02:32:57,207 --> 02:32:58,530 [BanKs] Yeah, Bitt's new coach as well. 2661 02:32:58,590 --> 02:32:59,592 [BanKs] When did he join? 2662 02:32:59,672 --> 02:33:01,536 [BanKs] He joined... 2663 02:33:00,790 --> 02:33:03,222 [Devilwalk] 10 months ago. 2664 02:33:01,515 --> 02:33:01,957 [BanKs] Huh? 2665 02:33:02,818 --> 02:33:04,121 [BanKs] 10 months ago, bro. 2666 02:33:06,548 --> 02:33:07,970 [BanKs] I read it as 2026. 2667 02:33:08,792 --> 02:33:09,454 [BanKs] That's what I read. 2668 02:33:09,475 --> 02:33:13,063 [BanKs] Wait a second, where was Bit before though? 2669 02:33:13,083 --> 02:33:14,445 [BanKs] Bit was at MIBR before, right? 2670 02:33:15,909 --> 02:33:16,791 [Devilwalk] At one point, yeah. 2671 02:33:17,634 --> 02:33:18,194 [BanKs] Yeah, that was last. 2672 02:33:18,235 --> 02:33:19,558 [BanKs] Last time was MIBR. 2673 02:33:21,260 --> 02:33:23,064 [BanKs] How does that work with languages as well? 2674 02:33:24,105 --> 02:33:24,868 [BanKs] They're always doing this. 2675 02:33:26,051 --> 02:33:26,754 [Devilwalk] I have no clue. 2676 02:33:28,014 --> 02:33:30,520 [BanKs] Portuguese versus the Spanish of Argentinian. 2677 02:33:32,766 --> 02:33:35,573 [Devilwalk] Usually Portuguese speakers understand Spanish. 2678 02:33:35,450 --> 02:33:37,595 [BanKs] We keep saying this, but this didn't work on pain. 2679 02:33:37,876 --> 02:33:39,279 [BanKs] This didn't work on pain. 2680 02:33:39,299 --> 02:33:40,602 [BanKs] They didn't understand each other. 2681 02:33:42,117 --> 02:33:43,239 [BanKs] It didn't happen before. 2682 02:33:43,960 --> 02:33:52,480 [BanKs] But no, 9Z, would you put it as a... For me, it's a hit or miss team because they have a good ranking in VRS because obviously what they're doing in South America. 2683 02:33:52,005 --> 02:34:00,389 [Devilwalk] I mean, I'll be honest. 2684 02:33:52,541 --> 02:33:59,096 [BanKs] It's an exciting team to watch, but I wouldn't put them in the same standard as Monty is saying, like they could make playoffs. 2685 02:34:00,409 --> 02:34:04,682 [Devilwalk] I mean, they obviously beat Maus earlier in the year. 2686 02:34:05,000 --> 02:34:12,792 [BanKs] Yep. 2687 02:34:06,737 --> 02:34:09,206 [Devilwalk] Which was the devastating loss for Maus. 2688 02:34:09,245 --> 02:34:12,516 [Devilwalk] They kind of broke up that team with that loss to some extent. 2689 02:34:12,813 --> 02:34:13,254 [BanKs] Yep. 2690 02:34:13,880 --> 02:34:19,177 [Devilwalk] So they definitely have some swing to them. 2691 02:34:19,157 --> 02:34:24,346 [Devilwalk] They're incredibly consistent in South American region. 2692 02:34:24,777 --> 02:34:30,451 [BanKs] That's nuts. 2693 02:34:25,209 --> 02:34:29,416 [Devilwalk] They have an 82-83% win rate in the last three months. 2694 02:34:32,763 --> 02:34:37,251 [Devilwalk] So I think they are looking at this as a step they're ready for. 2695 02:34:37,230 --> 02:34:41,941 [Devilwalk] Definitely upset the team or two. 2696 02:34:37,752 --> 02:34:37,891 [BanKs] Mm-hmm. 2697 02:34:43,036 --> 02:34:46,221 [BanKs] Would you put Monty or 9Z as having more of a chance to go in playoffs? 2698 02:34:47,018 --> 02:34:55,774 [Devilwalk] I think Monty personally, but that's kind of biased because I know a little bit more about and I watch more games of Monty than 9C. 2699 02:34:48,626 --> 02:34:48,726 [BanKs] Yeah. 2700 02:34:55,795 --> 02:35:01,726 [Devilwalk] I don't know if that's like an accurate description of it. 2701 02:34:56,359 --> 02:35:02,270 [BanKs] Of course. 2702 02:35:01,786 --> 02:35:04,251 [Devilwalk] I think it's just me being European, if I'm honest. 2703 02:35:02,290 --> 02:35:02,530 [BanKs] Yeah. 2704 02:35:04,230 --> 02:35:05,433 [BanKs] True, true, true. 2705 02:35:06,575 --> 02:35:08,418 [BanKs] All right, next we're getting into now the big teams. 2706 02:35:08,579 --> 02:35:09,822 [BanKs] This is where we're getting into the heavy hitters. 2707 02:35:10,302 --> 02:35:14,031 [BanKs] G2, the lowest of the ranked teams out of the heavy hitters in there. 2708 02:35:14,050 --> 02:35:17,176 [BanKs] 12th on the VRS, 12th on HLTV right now. 2709 02:35:17,495 --> 02:35:31,174 [BanKs] They obviously didn't have the best rivals with that loss to FaZe, but they've also had kind of a lackluster year outside of the Star Ladder ranked first place, which was mainly a Tier 2 event, you know, Tier 2, Tier 3. 2710 02:35:31,715 --> 02:35:36,481 [BanKs] So this is a point where they must get playoffs. 2711 02:35:36,563 --> 02:35:37,885 [BanKs] and they must start to look better. 2712 02:35:37,879 --> 02:35:43,165 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 2713 02:35:37,905 --> 02:35:39,847 [BanKs] And I want to see if some players keeps that form up. 2714 02:35:39,907 --> 02:35:41,390 [BanKs] I'm all eyes on some bias man. 2715 02:35:42,493 --> 02:35:43,795 [BanKs] Because he's the difference maker right now. 2716 02:35:46,131 --> 02:35:49,137 [Devilwalk] I mean, G2, for me, they should be making playoffs. 2717 02:35:49,618 --> 02:35:53,863 [Devilwalk] They have been a little bit strugglesome against lower-tier teams. 2718 02:35:53,965 --> 02:35:54,925 [Devilwalk] They lose a map. 2719 02:35:54,712 --> 02:35:54,893 [BanKs] Mm hmm. 2720 02:35:54,986 --> 02:35:55,868 [Devilwalk] They play the UNOs. 2721 02:35:56,167 --> 02:35:56,929 [Devilwalk] Look at Stake. 2722 02:35:56,968 --> 02:35:59,013 [Devilwalk] They lost to Batboom maps twice. 2723 02:35:59,634 --> 02:36:00,935 [Devilwalk] Made it really, really close. 2724 02:36:02,538 --> 02:36:05,122 [Devilwalk] Even Roman, they struggled against Batboom again. 2725 02:36:05,202 --> 02:36:06,064 [Devilwalk] Lost to them. 2726 02:36:08,220 --> 02:36:11,587 [Devilwalk] So I'm a little bit, it's more for me about G2. 2727 02:36:11,647 --> 02:36:15,717 [Devilwalk] Can they find a consistency against a team they should really beat? 2728 02:36:16,726 --> 02:36:17,186 [BanKs] Yeah. 2729 02:36:18,862 --> 02:36:24,475 [Devilwalk] But yeah, I'm not going to delve too much into G2 or my voice is going to crack. 2730 02:36:26,429 --> 02:36:27,831 [BanKs] All right, well, next we've got a big one. 2731 02:36:28,691 --> 02:36:31,495 [BanKs] Maus with JL and Zelex. 2732 02:36:32,117 --> 02:36:34,340 [BanKs] Zelex coming from the academy scene, 17 years old. 2733 02:36:34,360 --> 02:36:35,862 [BanKs] We've seen him once before at a big event. 2734 02:36:35,882 --> 02:36:38,585 [BanKs] It was Krakow he stood in, or Katowice back then. 2735 02:36:39,051 --> 02:36:40,533 [Devilwalk] This is the first one for them, right? 2736 02:36:39,227 --> 02:36:39,747 [BanKs] JL. 2737 02:36:41,069 --> 02:36:41,730 [BanKs] Yeah, yeah. 2738 02:36:42,972 --> 02:36:44,354 [BanKs] No, what do you mean first one? 2739 02:36:44,454 --> 02:36:45,957 [BanKs] First of the events with this Maus? 2740 02:36:46,262 --> 02:36:46,402 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 2741 02:36:46,422 --> 02:36:46,962 [Devilwalk] For this mouse. 2742 02:36:46,983 --> 02:36:47,122 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 2743 02:36:47,184 --> 02:36:47,726 [BanKs] Yes, yeah. 2744 02:36:47,945 --> 02:36:49,209 [BanKs] Zershan will be IGL. 2745 02:36:49,449 --> 02:36:51,233 [BanKs] Torzey and Spinks staying in their usual positions. 2746 02:36:51,654 --> 02:36:59,227 [BanKs] JL is supposed to be more of that passion bringer, hype bringer, aura bringer, the confidence in his gameplay. 2747 02:36:57,016 --> 02:36:57,297 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 2748 02:36:59,487 --> 02:37:05,058 [BanKs] And the thing is, what I'm looking at here, is that JL sees this as his audition to join Maus. 2749 02:37:06,018 --> 02:37:14,460 [BanKs] So this will be do as well as possible, get to play really well up until the major, and then mouse sign you after clone. 2750 02:37:06,423 --> 02:37:15,335 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 2751 02:37:15,644 --> 02:37:16,606 [BanKs] That is everything he's asked. 2752 02:37:16,627 --> 02:37:17,610 [BanKs] And do you know what? 2753 02:37:17,629 --> 02:37:21,360 [BanKs] That's when I think when he's got that feeling out of him, that's when he's going to deliver his best. 2754 02:37:21,965 --> 02:37:28,904 [BanKs] Because otherwise he's only looking at maybe like a liquid he goes to or like... Mouses is a great team for him to be able to get his foot into. 2755 02:37:29,237 --> 02:37:31,924 [Devilwalk] It's the best team he could, I think, hope for. 2756 02:37:31,309 --> 02:37:32,873 [BanKs] Yeah. 2757 02:37:31,965 --> 02:37:44,900 [Devilwalk] Yep. 2758 02:37:32,894 --> 02:37:34,879 [BanKs] But bro, they're so far down on the BRS right now. 2759 02:37:34,899 --> 02:37:35,822 [BanKs] They're 11th. 2760 02:37:37,202 --> 02:37:38,867 [BanKs] It's crazy how hard they've been hit by that. 2761 02:37:38,887 --> 02:37:40,711 [BanKs] They're 11th in HLTV and World. 2762 02:37:40,972 --> 02:37:42,816 [BanKs] This was a team that was consistent. 2763 02:37:42,836 --> 02:37:43,659 [BanKs] Top three, top four. 2764 02:37:45,965 --> 02:37:47,530 [BanKs] Oof. 2765 02:37:47,549 --> 02:37:50,858 [BanKs] So yeah, like for me, Maus in Astana. 2766 02:37:50,146 --> 02:38:02,670 [Devilwalk] Thank you. 2767 02:37:51,748 --> 02:37:54,734 [BanKs] I'm going to temper my expectations because they do have a rookie. 2768 02:37:55,295 --> 02:37:55,534 [BanKs] Yeah. 2769 02:37:56,036 --> 02:37:57,438 [BanKs] And they do have jail now. 2770 02:37:57,838 --> 02:38:04,228 [BanKs] And there's a lot changing in that insertions first event leading, but I'm still going to put them as like, playoffs is the minimum. 2771 02:38:05,010 --> 02:38:09,656 [BanKs] I don't mind if they get eliminated in the courses, but it must be at least getting to the quarters. 2772 02:38:09,872 --> 02:38:16,783 [Devilwalk] When you're a big team like that, you can't really settle for anything else but playoffs. 2773 02:38:17,398 --> 02:38:22,824 [BanKs] Yeah. 2774 02:38:17,545 --> 02:38:19,568 [Devilwalk] I don't think we can give them excuses. 2775 02:38:19,629 --> 02:38:20,590 [Devilwalk] They still have the core. 2776 02:38:20,610 --> 02:38:21,370 [Devilwalk] They have the coach. 2777 02:38:21,391 --> 02:38:22,272 [Devilwalk] They have the system. 2778 02:38:22,843 --> 02:38:23,004 [BanKs] Mhm. 2779 02:38:25,198 --> 02:38:26,719 [Devilwalk] We need to see results. 2780 02:38:26,799 --> 02:38:29,164 [Devilwalk] And especially, I mean, if you're playing... 2781 02:38:30,459 --> 02:38:34,771 [Devilwalk] Probably one game against the likes of Hans, Magic, K27. 2782 02:38:37,378 --> 02:38:40,286 [Devilwalk] One game against Gentlemates, Heroic, Monty, 9C. 2783 02:38:41,087 --> 02:38:42,030 [Devilwalk] You should be winning those. 2784 02:38:42,772 --> 02:38:45,819 [Devilwalk] Even in this new form, Maus. 2785 02:38:46,289 --> 02:38:49,194 [BanKs] Yep, definitely. 2786 02:38:50,176 --> 02:38:50,738 [BanKs] Paravision. 2787 02:38:50,272 --> 02:38:50,597 [Devilwalk] Thank you. 2788 02:38:50,818 --> 02:38:52,823 [BanKs] By the way, Paravision have had a big break of events. 2789 02:38:53,263 --> 02:38:57,031 [BanKs] They were last seen at Bucharest, which will be a month since they last played. 2790 02:38:57,051 --> 02:39:01,281 [BanKs] So they finally had time to reset, rest, and chill. 2791 02:39:01,822 --> 02:39:04,567 [BanKs] And I'm just going to remember, during Bucharest, that's Dan saying... 2792 02:39:04,548 --> 02:39:15,603 [BanKs] if it wasn't the major coming up and i could make changes i'd be kicking some players right now before the major you know like he was already in that mindset so i can imagine this para vision is going to come in hella strong because 2793 02:39:14,638 --> 02:39:27,349 [Devilwalk] Thank you. 2794 02:39:16,629 --> 02:39:18,614 [BanKs] Everyone knows they're being looked at. 2795 02:39:19,156 --> 02:39:20,620 [BanKs] Everyone's expected to perform better. 2796 02:39:20,720 --> 02:39:32,731 [BanKs] This slow drop off in performances and mistakes they were making from not making out of stage one of EPL to top four at Rotterdam and then fifth to eighth at Bucharest, which didn't have great teams. 2797 02:39:32,711 --> 02:39:36,997 [BanKs] Like, they lost to Foot, 3D Max, and Mongols. 2798 02:39:37,077 --> 02:39:38,600 [BanKs] They should have beaten 3D Max. 2799 02:39:39,060 --> 02:39:40,541 [BanKs] Foot can be a tough team, for sure. 2800 02:39:41,324 --> 02:39:47,111 [BanKs] Mongols is one they should have been maybe having a better chance against, but you can still give them the fact that they get a loss against there. 2801 02:39:46,093 --> 02:39:48,701 [Devilwalk] I've spied these guys in practice. 2802 02:39:48,721 --> 02:39:49,504 [Devilwalk] I'll just say that. 2803 02:39:49,774 --> 02:39:50,456 [BanKs] You've watched them. 2804 02:39:51,436 --> 02:39:52,138 [BanKs] You played them. 2805 02:39:52,875 --> 02:39:53,094 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 2806 02:39:53,654 --> 02:39:55,619 [BanKs] Oh, how is it looking? 2807 02:39:57,288 --> 02:39:58,972 [Devilwalk] I'm not gonna say anything... 2808 02:39:59,929 --> 02:40:03,458 [BanKs] Bro, you can't be in this role now and not leak something for the podcast. 2809 02:40:03,477 --> 02:40:05,262 [BanKs] Imagine all the things I get, the juice I get. 2810 02:40:05,663 --> 02:40:06,465 [BanKs] Give me something. 2811 02:40:09,145 --> 02:40:10,567 [Devilwalk] Nobody won the game. 2812 02:40:10,587 --> 02:40:23,174 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 2813 02:40:13,093 --> 02:40:13,936 [BanKs] Oh, you're just tired. 2814 02:40:13,996 --> 02:40:15,561 [BanKs] You're tired in the practice game. 2815 02:40:16,787 --> 02:40:21,040 [BanKs] But they tied against an algo with standing in players and trialing things out. 2816 02:40:21,060 --> 02:40:22,125 [BanKs] That's not a good sign. 2817 02:40:23,505 --> 02:40:39,927 [BanKs] not a great sign for them coming into it yeah well i'm reading a lot into this i want to hit them with i'm here i heard your practices have been going that's the first interview um power vision though should be a a must get to playoffs 2818 02:40:24,376 --> 02:40:25,157 [Devilwalk] It's a prac. 2819 02:40:25,397 --> 02:40:26,260 [Devilwalk] It doesn't matter. 2820 02:40:31,166 --> 02:40:43,887 [Devilwalk] I think 100% they're going to play off. 2821 02:40:42,608 --> 02:40:43,592 [BanKs] Potential deep run. 2822 02:40:43,631 --> 02:40:51,083 [BanKs] Mm hmm. 2823 02:40:44,347 --> 02:40:45,750 [Devilwalk] I think 100%. 2824 02:40:45,790 --> 02:40:46,731 [Devilwalk] I like ParaVision. 2825 02:40:46,752 --> 02:40:50,458 [Devilwalk] I also think they're really, really good in these close games. 2826 02:40:53,358 --> 02:40:58,606 [Devilwalk] They have this speciality, you know, like, I don't think it matters who they play. 2827 02:40:58,666 --> 02:41:02,292 [Devilwalk] They rarely dominate people and just swipe them all out. 2828 02:41:02,552 --> 02:41:05,817 [Devilwalk] They kind of grind their way and figure out things during the game. 2829 02:41:02,572 --> 02:41:03,338 [BanKs] That's not that way. 2830 02:41:03,399 --> 02:41:06,691 [BanKs] Yep. 2831 02:41:06,359 --> 02:41:11,147 [Devilwalk] So I expect them to be more disciplined, more ready. 2832 02:41:12,763 --> 02:41:21,820 [Devilwalk] And yeah, maybe I hadn't had a great time going back into Dustin's house and getting whipped every day in the spare time. 2833 02:41:24,155 --> 02:41:26,343 [BanKs] But I've got the worst thought in my head right now. 2834 02:41:26,362 --> 02:41:28,228 [BanKs] I'm so glad no one can see what's in my mind. 2835 02:41:27,391 --> 02:41:27,852 [Devilwalk] Really? 2836 02:41:28,270 --> 02:41:29,192 [BanKs] This is disgusting. 2837 02:41:29,272 --> 02:41:31,280 [BanKs] Why did you have to use that exact terminology? 2838 02:41:32,283 --> 02:41:33,668 [BanKs] Mongols. 2839 02:41:34,191 --> 02:41:35,193 [BanKs] Next. 2840 02:41:35,343 --> 02:41:39,131 [BanKs] Third place last time at PGL Bucharest, now back at PGL Astana. 2841 02:41:39,211 --> 02:41:42,118 [BanKs] They would have been able to go back to Mongolia, reset, refresh. 2842 02:41:42,138 --> 02:41:43,781 [BanKs] They love to do that, come back into an event. 2843 02:41:44,844 --> 02:41:51,259 [BanKs] I hope this isn't another event where I sit down on day one with either Mizunio, Techno, or Cobra, and they tell me, 2844 02:41:51,238 --> 02:42:03,190 [BanKs] we haven't practiced we've arrived here in astana and now we're practicing because that will make me very sad if they have practiced and if they have come a little bit earlier to europe and to get some games going 2845 02:42:03,170 --> 02:42:04,792 [BanKs] Do you know if they're practicing at all, Devwalk? 2846 02:42:06,014 --> 02:42:07,076 [BanKs] Are they practicing? 2847 02:42:06,291 --> 02:42:07,138 [Devilwalk] I haven't seen them. 2848 02:42:07,500 --> 02:42:10,058 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 2849 02:42:07,576 --> 02:42:09,540 [BanKs] Okay, you didn't see these ones, sadly. 2850 02:42:09,560 --> 02:42:10,882 [BanKs] You're not helping the situation here. 2851 02:42:11,343 --> 02:42:14,087 [BanKs] So with Mongols, they should be making playoffs. 2852 02:42:14,289 --> 02:42:19,137 [BanKs] I do think, in a way, if they come back really strong... 2853 02:42:19,252 --> 02:42:22,879 [BanKs] They're a team who could be making top three again, maybe a grand final. 2854 02:42:23,161 --> 02:42:25,265 [BanKs] You know, third place decider, maybe a grand final. 2855 02:42:25,377 --> 02:42:38,188 [Devilwalk] They're kind of in a weirdly blessed position where a lot of these teams on the top end are making changes or struggling or, you know, out of form or have something to prove. 2856 02:42:34,066 --> 02:42:34,307 [BanKs] Yep. 2857 02:42:38,167 --> 02:42:48,684 [Devilwalk] They've kind of just been a little bit stable-ish in there while the rest are self imploding to some sense. 2858 02:42:45,441 --> 02:42:47,665 [BanKs] Going through massive changes. 2859 02:42:47,704 --> 02:42:49,327 [BanKs] Yeah. 2860 02:42:48,704 --> 02:42:55,536 [Devilwalk] Yeah, so I wouldn't be surprised if we see a very, very good tournament from the Mongols here. 2861 02:42:55,958 --> 02:42:57,459 [BanKs] Yeah, I got that feeling. 2862 02:42:57,700 --> 02:42:58,481 [BanKs] I got that feeling. 2863 02:42:58,047 --> 02:43:09,272 [Devilwalk] they don't make playoffs this tournament I don't know what to say man 2864 02:42:59,602 --> 02:43:03,989 [BanKs] For Falcons. 2865 02:43:05,454 --> 02:43:06,019 [BanKs] Oh. 2866 02:43:08,841 --> 02:43:08,900 [BanKs] Oh. 2867 02:43:10,281 --> 02:43:13,909 [BanKs] Bro, I'm going to glaze the hell out of Falcons right now. 2868 02:43:13,950 --> 02:43:16,235 [BanKs] Manassi's just had his birthday. 2869 02:43:16,295 --> 02:43:18,478 [BanKs] He's now 21 years old. 2870 02:43:19,460 --> 02:43:25,995 [BanKs] This guy is... This guy has got Karagun in his IGL. 2871 02:43:20,541 --> 02:43:21,237 [Devilwalk] It's over. 2872 02:43:26,752 --> 02:43:31,102 [BanKs] This guy is going to be coming through and changing things up on this team. 2873 02:43:31,824 --> 02:43:35,210 [BanKs] People can hate Falcons all they want, but you can't hate Kerrigan. 2874 02:43:35,652 --> 02:43:38,418 [BanKs] Unless you're a diehard FaZe fan, you can't hate Kerrigan. 2875 02:43:39,361 --> 02:43:42,448 [BanKs] Kerrigan and Niko back together after seven years. 2876 02:43:43,710 --> 02:43:44,472 [BanKs] Is it seven years? 2877 02:43:44,493 --> 02:43:45,375 [BanKs] I don't know. 2878 02:43:45,395 --> 02:43:49,403 [BanKs] I think it's like nine years since Karagon and Zonic back together. 2879 02:43:47,372 --> 02:43:48,456 [Devilwalk] I'm nervous, man. 2880 02:43:49,418 --> 02:43:50,140 [Devilwalk] I'm nervous. 2881 02:43:49,442 --> 02:43:52,870 [BanKs] I'm on the opposite. 2882 02:43:50,722 --> 02:43:53,251 [Devilwalk] I'm legit nervous. 2883 02:43:53,551 --> 02:43:54,394 [BanKs] I'm the opposite. 2884 02:43:53,832 --> 02:44:00,673 [Devilwalk] I feel like you are making a case that just feels too good to be true, man. 2885 02:43:57,922 --> 02:43:59,103 [BanKs] I am the opposite. 2886 02:44:02,576 --> 02:44:03,739 [BanKs] Yeah, it's okay. 2887 02:44:03,941 --> 02:44:06,406 [BanKs] So seven years since Nico and Karigan together. 2888 02:44:06,827 --> 02:44:07,088 [BanKs] Yeah. 2889 02:44:07,690 --> 02:44:09,935 [BanKs] And nine years since Zonic and Karigan together. 2890 02:44:10,638 --> 02:44:13,245 [BanKs] I am, I'm just, I'm imagining. 2891 02:44:13,225 --> 02:44:25,750 [BanKs] carrigan comes into that team nico's like i was wrong i'm doing fan fiction here right now i was wrong i should have never kicked you i would have won the major already if i stuck with you and carrigan's like yes 2892 02:44:21,240 --> 02:44:40,666 [Devilwalk] This sounds like Star Wars and the Emperor shit like 2893 02:44:25,729 --> 02:44:26,753 [BanKs] Now you will listen. 2894 02:44:26,994 --> 02:44:33,692 [BanKs] Bow down to me and tell your young disciples, Kioski and Manasi, bow down to me as well, and we will lift the major. 2895 02:44:33,733 --> 02:44:36,039 [BanKs] Tess is just agreeing with all of this because he's Danish anyway. 2896 02:44:36,058 --> 02:44:37,343 [BanKs] No, no, no. 2897 02:44:40,259 --> 02:44:42,868 [BanKs] Hey, Karagod is motherfucking Batman. 2898 02:44:43,209 --> 02:44:48,024 [BanKs] So, Kioski and Manasi are just doing... 2899 02:44:44,443 --> 02:44:48,126 [Devilwalk] Sending out Darth Maul, Darth Niko is coming. 2900 02:44:49,557 --> 02:44:51,240 [BanKs] So Kioski and Manasi are just agreeing. 2901 02:44:51,261 --> 02:44:51,721 [BanKs] It's Karaghan. 2902 02:44:51,742 --> 02:44:52,824 [BanKs] You're like, okay, whatever. 2903 02:44:52,843 --> 02:44:53,786 [BanKs] I'm doing what Niko says. 2904 02:44:53,825 --> 02:44:54,487 [BanKs] No problem. 2905 02:44:54,507 --> 02:44:59,638 [BanKs] Tessus is like, my Danish hero, thank you so much for coming to me finally and being my leader. 2906 02:44:59,959 --> 02:45:05,673 [BanKs] And Zonic, he says, okay, we didn't see eye to eye before, but this time you can have everything. 2907 02:45:07,316 --> 02:45:09,000 [BanKs] And all that money rains down from the sky. 2908 02:45:10,465 --> 02:45:11,246 [BanKs] There you go. 2909 02:45:11,788 --> 02:45:12,290 [BanKs] That's it. 2910 02:45:12,329 --> 02:45:13,552 [BanKs] That's all I've got. 2911 02:45:13,266 --> 02:45:22,108 [Devilwalk] I feel like this is some kind of like... That... That... Energy... Illusion. 2912 02:45:22,674 --> 02:45:24,980 [BanKs] But I'm so believing in this team. 2913 02:45:25,197 --> 02:45:28,442 [BanKs] I was never a Falcons fan. 2914 02:45:25,456 --> 02:45:26,597 [Devilwalk] I mean, I believe in them. 2915 02:45:27,039 --> 02:45:27,820 [Devilwalk] It's not that. 2916 02:45:28,102 --> 02:45:28,643 [Devilwalk] I'm just... 2917 02:45:28,563 --> 02:45:29,584 [BanKs] I was a Munnessy fan. 2918 02:45:29,604 --> 02:45:30,888 [BanKs] Now I'm a Falcons fan. 2919 02:45:30,968 --> 02:45:32,734 [Devilwalk] I'm just fucking worried, man. 2920 02:45:31,048 --> 02:45:31,949 [BanKs] You got Kerrigan. 2921 02:45:32,773 --> 02:45:34,540 [Devilwalk] Expectations. 2922 02:45:33,551 --> 02:45:33,952 [BanKs] No. 2923 02:45:34,719 --> 02:45:37,590 [Devilwalk] I'm just looking at your expectations, right? 2924 02:45:38,130 --> 02:45:40,578 [Devilwalk] And you're probably even trying to push them back a little bit. 2925 02:45:43,270 --> 02:45:45,213 [BanKs] I don't think I was trying to push it back. 2926 02:45:43,408 --> 02:45:44,150 [Devilwalk] I feel like... 2927 02:45:45,278 --> 02:45:48,184 [Devilwalk] No, but I feel like everyone's going to think this way. 2928 02:45:48,406 --> 02:45:52,174 [Devilwalk] If they don't fucking show up perfect, people are going to flame the shit out of them. 2929 02:45:48,788 --> 02:45:49,148 [BanKs] Uh-huh. 2930 02:45:51,152 --> 02:45:51,313 [BanKs] Yeah. 2931 02:45:52,556 --> 02:45:54,300 [Devilwalk] And people are going to be like, oh, Kerrigan. 2932 02:45:54,320 --> 02:46:01,177 [Devilwalk] 100%. 2933 02:45:54,518 --> 02:45:55,841 [BanKs] Okay, let's look at it this way. 2934 02:45:55,861 --> 02:45:56,762 [BanKs] Let's be honest, yeah? 2935 02:45:57,163 --> 02:45:59,727 [BanKs] They were always doing really well in group stages. 2936 02:45:59,768 --> 02:46:00,648 [BanKs] They didn't have a problem. 2937 02:46:01,310 --> 02:46:03,213 [BanKs] So they were only struggling in playoffs. 2938 02:46:03,454 --> 02:46:05,497 [BanKs] Kerrigan loves pressure anyway. 2939 02:46:05,518 --> 02:46:08,703 [BanKs] There's more pressure now than ever, the fact he's going to have a Falcon shirt as he's on. 2940 02:46:05,595 --> 02:46:12,860 [Devilwalk] But what is the pressure? 2941 02:46:08,683 --> 02:46:18,862 [BanKs] and he's got all these great players to work with and i'll tell you this he's going to sacrifice so much the pressure is going to be the fact that everyone's expecting him to lift the trophy again straight away at 36 years old 2942 02:46:12,879 --> 02:46:18,237 [Devilwalk] 100%. 2943 02:46:18,843 --> 02:46:23,310 [BanKs] And also the fact he's got Manassi, Kioski, Nico. 2944 02:46:23,331 --> 02:46:26,396 [BanKs] Like, bro, Nico's going to be the perfect second caller for him. 2945 02:46:26,415 --> 02:46:27,959 [BanKs] This is going to be magic. 2946 02:46:28,259 --> 02:46:29,881 [BanKs] Nico's matured and aged. 2947 02:46:30,182 --> 02:46:32,126 [BanKs] Kerrigan is the veteran. 2948 02:46:32,686 --> 02:46:35,251 [BanKs] By the way, we all know this is Kerrigan's last chance. 2949 02:46:35,310 --> 02:46:37,054 [BanKs] Like, very last chance. 2950 02:46:37,033 --> 02:46:40,140 [BanKs] And if he could be the one that delivers Nico that major. 2951 02:46:43,129 --> 02:46:45,494 [BanKs] Oh, I'm jumping way far ahead. 2952 02:46:43,479 --> 02:47:02,720 [Devilwalk] expectation they could make it 3-0 out of playoff or two playoff and then we'll see that's where the interesting stuff happens because 2953 02:46:45,513 --> 02:46:46,477 [BanKs] There's still got to be Vitality. 2954 02:46:46,496 --> 02:46:46,958 [BanKs] I know that. 2955 02:46:46,997 --> 02:46:55,278 [BanKs] But let's start with an Astana trophy or at least a CAC trophy. 2956 02:46:55,298 --> 02:46:55,497 [BanKs] Yep. 2957 02:46:59,629 --> 02:47:02,938 [BanKs] I'll tell you this. 2958 02:47:03,498 --> 02:47:06,306 [BanKs] If they meet Spirit in the quarters, then Spirit could beat them. 2959 02:47:06,325 --> 02:47:06,967 [BanKs] I'll give you that. 2960 02:47:07,609 --> 02:47:10,636 [BanKs] But there's not a single other team in here I see Falcons losing to. 2961 02:47:12,740 --> 02:47:13,722 [BanKs] Putting out there right now. 2962 02:47:14,175 --> 02:47:17,863 [Devilwalk] I mean, it's interesting because you put overall winner for this event. 2963 02:47:18,630 --> 02:47:19,612 [BanKs] Yeah, we'll get to that later. 2964 02:47:19,653 --> 02:47:20,655 [BanKs] We'll get to that later. 2965 02:47:21,778 --> 02:47:22,739 [BanKs] We'll get there. 2966 02:47:23,441 --> 02:47:24,644 [BanKs] But that's enough Falcons glazing. 2967 02:47:24,664 --> 02:47:25,284 [BanKs] You're worried. 2968 02:47:25,325 --> 02:47:26,006 [BanKs] I'm not. 2969 02:47:26,768 --> 02:47:27,809 [BanKs] Kerrigan is back. 2970 02:47:28,230 --> 02:47:29,474 [BanKs] Batman in the building. 2971 02:47:28,245 --> 02:47:32,134 [Devilwalk] I'm just worried that... This is what I said last... 2972 02:47:31,278 --> 02:47:33,361 [BanKs] Can he be Batman if he's a Falcon now? 2973 02:47:33,441 --> 02:47:34,343 [BanKs] Does that make sense? 2974 02:47:34,363 --> 02:47:37,550 [BanKs] You have a Batman mask with Falcon wings. 2975 02:47:37,109 --> 02:47:38,814 [Devilwalk] You're dreaming away, man. 2976 02:47:40,670 --> 02:47:42,314 [BanKs] Bro, it's 2.26 in the morning. 2977 02:47:40,920 --> 02:47:42,944 [Devilwalk] It's not even a conversation anymore. 2978 02:47:42,334 --> 02:47:49,250 [BanKs] I get to do the stage announcements, man. 2979 02:47:42,965 --> 02:47:45,050 [Devilwalk] It's just fucking Banks dreaming. 2980 02:47:46,575 --> 02:47:50,004 [Devilwalk] It's like... Yeah. 2981 02:47:49,270 --> 02:47:51,354 [BanKs] I'm just imagining these wondrous things. 2982 02:47:51,858 --> 02:48:00,365 [Devilwalk] this guy has probably been sleeping at like 10 every day waking up 4 in the morning and now he's up till 4 in the morning 2983 02:48:00,262 --> 02:48:01,623 [BanKs] Yeah, by the way, I'm going to go to bed. 2984 02:48:01,884 --> 02:48:02,786 [BanKs] My son's going to wake up. 2985 02:48:02,806 --> 02:48:04,849 [BanKs] I'm going to need to change his nappy and then I'm going to have to help feed him. 2986 02:48:05,189 --> 02:48:06,370 [BanKs] And then I'm going to go sleep again. 2987 02:48:06,431 --> 02:48:08,915 [BanKs] Today's going to be a hell of a tough day. 2988 02:48:08,954 --> 02:48:10,217 [BanKs] I'm already delusional. 2989 02:48:09,492 --> 02:48:10,115 [Devilwalk] You're cooked. 2990 02:48:10,717 --> 02:48:11,599 [BanKs] Yeah, I'm so cooked. 2991 02:48:10,899 --> 02:48:11,182 [Devilwalk] Okay. 2992 02:48:11,382 --> 02:48:14,219 [Devilwalk] Let's, let's push through this or maybe you got half an hour. 2993 02:48:13,101 --> 02:48:13,781 [BanKs] We're nearly there. 2994 02:48:14,924 --> 02:48:15,584 [BanKs] We're nearly there. 2995 02:48:15,604 --> 02:48:17,847 [BanKs] So, Aurora. 2996 02:48:17,947 --> 02:48:22,118 [BanKs] Aurora is an interesting one because there was rumors about all these changes, but I don't know. 2997 02:48:22,298 --> 02:48:24,745 [BanKs] I heard nothing about how true these changes could be. 2998 02:48:25,365 --> 02:48:31,702 [BanKs] I heard other podcasts talking about it, like Woxic going to another team and stuff and Aurora thinking to go international for 2999 02:48:31,683 --> 02:48:43,397 [BanKs] far as i know it aurora stay in turkish that's as much as information as i have and i know some people there so they had second place at epl third to fourth at rotterdam 3000 02:48:43,377 --> 02:48:56,862 [BanKs] the draculaan one was the one we already criticized like that wasn't acceptable and then seven to eight losing to navi again in rio all right and that was then stopping them from going to playoffs so that wasn't even a playoff game they lost this is still a team though 3001 02:48:57,450 --> 02:48:58,131 [BanKs] who is deadly. 3002 02:48:58,172 --> 02:49:09,574 [BanKs] This is still a team that holds their rank pretty well, is a top 10 team, is a competitive team, and I'm still praising SoulFlight even if everyone else wants to say he's really bad in his numbers. 3003 02:49:02,429 --> 02:49:13,772 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 3004 02:49:09,634 --> 02:49:12,158 [BanKs] No, he's doing exactly what Magic wants. 3005 02:49:12,199 --> 02:49:14,041 [BanKs] They finally got the piece they needed. 3006 02:49:14,022 --> 02:49:18,911 [BanKs] Then the only thing is how well Zontaris' hands can hold up, you know? 3007 02:49:18,950 --> 02:49:33,397 [BanKs] Mm-hmm. 3008 02:49:20,586 --> 02:49:22,492 [Devilwalk] Yeah, I like them. 3009 02:49:22,512 --> 02:49:24,356 [Devilwalk] I think they made progress this season. 3010 02:49:27,504 --> 02:49:34,022 [Devilwalk] It's a good tournament for them to actually go for a trophy. 3011 02:49:35,656 --> 02:49:45,683 [Devilwalk] You know, if you see Spirit going back to their old ways of only Donk and nothing else, Aurora is a stronger team. 3012 02:49:45,393 --> 02:49:53,513 [BanKs] Yeah, yeah. 3013 02:49:45,663 --> 02:49:51,816 [Devilwalk] If Falcons don't really match up their expectations, start choking in playoff, Aurora has their chance there. 3014 02:49:52,738 --> 02:49:56,207 [Devilwalk] Furia, I don't know, they've been in poor form as well. 3015 02:49:56,246 --> 02:49:58,592 [Devilwalk] So Aurora might be... 3016 02:49:59,837 --> 02:50:05,952 [Devilwalk] Weirdly enough, the most stable team out of the top four, in a weird way. 3017 02:50:06,537 --> 02:50:07,638 [BanKs] Kind of, yeah. 3018 02:50:09,041 --> 02:50:15,393 [BanKs] Which is crazy, but they still have this problem when it goes into playoffs. 3019 02:50:14,873 --> 02:50:15,957 [Devilwalk] Not as much. 3020 02:50:15,994 --> 02:50:25,592 [BanKs] Not as much as in quarterfinal exit, but I mean, if they're going to get pushed, I feel like if they run into the Falcons, the Spirits, or Paravision on a good day, they're going to struggle. 3021 02:50:23,716 --> 02:50:31,054 [Devilwalk] I mean, anyone would struggle in that scenario. 3022 02:50:27,309 --> 02:50:33,081 [BanKs] And that's guaranteed to be one of your semis. 3023 02:50:31,675 --> 02:50:32,918 [Devilwalk] It's not only Aurora here. 3024 02:50:33,101 --> 02:50:38,130 [BanKs] No, but I mean, for a team of that standard, they don't put up a fight enough for me. 3025 02:50:39,174 --> 02:50:39,415 [Devilwalk] Okay. 3026 02:50:39,474 --> 02:50:40,476 [BanKs] You see what I mean? 3027 02:50:40,577 --> 02:50:40,998 [Devilwalk] Yeah, yeah. 3028 02:50:41,316 --> 02:50:54,938 [BanKs] like it's not like one where you go oh aurora versus spirit like that's gonna be a close like back and forth no it's it's gonna be aurora getting dominated let's see let's see 3029 02:50:51,576 --> 02:51:06,700 [Devilwalk] It's going to be interesting no matter what. 3030 02:50:56,065 --> 02:50:57,747 [BanKs] That does bring us nicely onto our next team, though. 3031 02:50:57,768 --> 02:50:58,308 [BanKs] It is Spirit. 3032 02:50:59,010 --> 02:51:01,534 [BanKs] So Spirit coming off the back of a second place at Rio. 3033 02:51:01,614 --> 02:51:03,799 [BanKs] They have had all this time off since Rio. 3034 02:51:04,119 --> 02:51:13,415 [BanKs] They go into Astana where if they get to the arena, which is probably most likely, it's going to be a crowd that will be probably on their side, at least a good portion of it. 3035 02:51:11,809 --> 02:51:15,658 [Devilwalk] Do you know if Softik or Hallie is going for this? 3036 02:51:16,349 --> 02:51:17,271 [BanKs] I thought this is Softik. 3037 02:51:17,290 --> 02:51:19,115 [BanKs] I thought it was the next two events for Softik, right? 3038 02:51:19,156 --> 02:51:21,802 [BanKs] So that would be... Wait, when did Softik come in? 3039 02:51:19,246 --> 02:51:24,418 [Devilwalk] Okay. 3040 02:51:22,906 --> 02:51:24,710 [BanKs] Oh, I've got to remember these things, man. 3041 02:51:24,439 --> 02:51:27,084 [Devilwalk] It says Softik if you hover over Spirit for this event. 3042 02:51:27,538 --> 02:51:27,939 [BanKs] There you go. 3043 02:51:27,959 --> 02:51:28,460 [BanKs] Then it's him. 3044 02:51:28,480 --> 02:51:29,202 [BanKs] Yeah, fine. 3045 02:51:29,905 --> 02:51:30,104 [BanKs] Good. 3046 02:51:31,890 --> 02:51:32,833 [BanKs] Your answer to your own question. 3047 02:51:32,893 --> 02:51:34,415 [BanKs] So this, we liked him. 3048 02:51:34,675 --> 02:51:35,917 [BanKs] In Rio, he was doing work. 3049 02:51:36,257 --> 02:51:36,519 [BanKs] Yeah. 3050 02:51:37,340 --> 02:51:38,081 [BanKs] This was positive. 3051 02:51:38,441 --> 02:51:40,525 [BanKs] They had their best performance so far of the year. 3052 02:51:40,566 --> 02:51:43,229 [BanKs] It's been a best performance, best final, a long time run. 3053 02:51:43,250 --> 02:51:48,498 [BanKs] Okay, they still got beaten by Vitality, but I'm happy with what they were cooking with. 3054 02:51:49,406 --> 02:51:50,269 [Devilwalk] I liked what they did. 3055 02:51:50,289 --> 02:51:51,753 [Devilwalk] I loved what they did, actually. 3056 02:51:51,913 --> 02:51:54,739 [Devilwalk] I loved how they enabled Tanir again. 3057 02:51:54,760 --> 02:51:56,745 [Devilwalk] He had some pop-off game. 3058 02:51:55,280 --> 02:51:55,756 [BanKs] Mm hmm. 3059 02:51:56,844 --> 02:51:59,110 [Devilwalk] It looked like they had a little bit more freedom. 3060 02:51:59,149 --> 02:52:01,155 [Devilwalk] They had more... 3061 02:52:01,135 --> 02:52:19,987 [Devilwalk] clear ideas of when to take that freedom it felt like and that's probably something they talked with Softik about that he either you know discussed in the team could have been highly from the start that they've changed their ways in some bits but I like that they've 3062 02:52:18,280 --> 02:52:29,319 [BanKs] Mm-hmm. 3063 02:52:19,968 --> 02:52:33,093 [Devilwalk] gone away from this very, I don't know, inflexible way of playing to letting players show what they're capable of on the server. 3064 02:52:33,855 --> 02:52:36,441 [Devilwalk] The only problem I've had is SonTix 3065 02:52:38,277 --> 02:52:44,670 [Devilwalk] I haven't felt him being as reliable as I've seen in the past. 3066 02:52:44,217 --> 02:52:45,340 [BanKs] Not as in the past. 3067 02:52:45,440 --> 02:52:55,962 [BanKs] Yeah, yeah, yeah. 3068 02:52:47,695 --> 02:52:54,750 [Devilwalk] I'd like to see a little bit more from him and then I actually think that this roster can lift trophies. 3069 02:52:56,986 --> 02:52:57,146 [BanKs] Yeah. 3070 02:52:57,566 --> 02:52:58,028 [BanKs] Yeah. 3071 02:52:58,048 --> 02:53:02,137 [BanKs] He's not come back to the really Mr. Reliable Zondik when you were old. 3072 02:53:01,986 --> 02:53:06,411 [Devilwalk] You see moments, but it's not consistent. 3073 02:53:02,438 --> 02:53:03,019 [BanKs] That's the thing. 3074 02:53:04,045 --> 02:53:06,970 [BanKs] Yep. 3075 02:53:06,990 --> 02:53:07,551 [BanKs] Yeah, I'd agree. 3076 02:53:08,533 --> 02:53:14,045 [BanKs] And then finally, last but not least, but they are the highest ranked team on here, not by VRS, but by the HLTV rankings. 3077 02:53:14,145 --> 02:53:14,806 [BanKs] It is Furia. 3078 02:53:16,148 --> 02:53:18,153 [BanKs] We already spoke so much about Furia in this episode. 3079 02:53:18,272 --> 02:53:19,274 [BanKs] It's not looking good for them. 3080 02:53:19,315 --> 02:53:20,416 [BanKs] This is... 3081 02:53:20,735 --> 02:53:23,739 [BanKs] Not just playoffs must be a must, but this is Molodoy's home. 3082 02:53:23,780 --> 02:53:32,031 [BanKs] Remember, this is where we saw Molodoy when this young boy, still on the stage with me, taking my microphone, talking away to his people, his crowd, his country. 3083 02:53:32,493 --> 02:53:33,875 [BanKs] This event means so much for him. 3084 02:53:33,995 --> 02:53:37,980 [BanKs] Similar to like what Rio meant for Fallen Yuri and K-Serato. 3085 02:53:38,040 --> 02:53:38,641 [BanKs] So... 3086 02:53:40,309 --> 02:53:41,754 [BanKs] I know he's had his struggles. 3087 02:53:41,896 --> 02:53:43,240 [BanKs] I know the team is having their struggles. 3088 02:53:43,763 --> 02:53:49,343 [BanKs] But I'm like, this is a format that is good for them. 3089 02:53:49,236 --> 02:53:56,218 [Devilwalk] But I'm still worried about Furia's form. 3090 02:53:49,363 --> 02:53:51,551 [BanKs] This is a format that should work really well. 3091 02:53:56,378 --> 02:53:57,641 [Devilwalk] I'm not convinced. 3092 02:53:58,183 --> 02:54:01,051 [Devilwalk] They'll just bounce back just like that. 3093 02:54:01,555 --> 02:54:03,358 [BanKs] Title contender, probably not. 3094 02:54:03,939 --> 02:54:07,685 [BanKs] Playoffs, surely with this, yeah, yeah. 3095 02:54:05,504 --> 02:54:07,047 [Devilwalk] I think they'll make playoffs, yeah. 3096 02:54:07,548 --> 02:54:16,444 [Devilwalk] Playoffs they'll make, but I don't see the current Fury beating Spirit, Falcons, Mongols. 3097 02:54:16,922 --> 02:54:17,943 [BanKs] See, you said Falcons. 3098 02:54:20,252 --> 02:54:25,301 [Devilwalk] I just still don't see it. 3099 02:54:26,647 --> 02:54:27,572 [BanKs] See, Falcons. 3100 02:54:27,155 --> 02:54:30,922 [Devilwalk] That's not because Falcons... We haven't seen shit about Falcons. 3101 02:54:30,465 --> 02:54:31,106 [BanKs] Carrigan. 3102 02:54:31,268 --> 02:54:31,911 [BanKs] We don't need to. 3103 02:54:32,191 --> 02:54:32,954 [BanKs] Just Carrigan. 3104 02:54:32,244 --> 02:54:33,345 [Devilwalk] We haven't seen anything. 3105 02:54:33,397 --> 02:54:34,261 [BanKs] Just Carrigan. 3106 02:54:34,963 --> 02:54:35,847 [BanKs] That's all you need to know. 3107 02:54:37,513 --> 02:54:37,914 [Devilwalk] We'll see. 3108 02:54:38,094 --> 02:54:38,415 [Devilwalk] We'll see. 3109 02:54:39,757 --> 02:54:44,926 [Devilwalk] I'm reserved. 3110 02:54:41,245 --> 02:54:42,227 [BanKs] You can be reserved. 3111 02:54:42,246 --> 02:54:42,788 [BanKs] That's fine. 3112 02:54:43,228 --> 02:54:43,529 [BanKs] All right. 3113 02:54:43,609 --> 02:54:46,694 [BanKs] So we don't have the matchups because PGL will release these later on. 3114 02:54:47,000 --> 02:54:47,577 [Devilwalk] Thank you. 3115 02:54:47,756 --> 02:54:48,978 [BanKs] Now, overall winner. 3116 02:54:48,998 --> 02:54:50,200 [BanKs] I'll let you start, Devil. 3117 02:54:50,281 --> 02:54:50,961 [BanKs] You go first. 3118 02:54:50,983 --> 02:54:53,085 [BanKs] Who do you think is going to win this whole tournament in Astana? 3119 02:54:53,105 --> 02:54:57,954 [BanKs] Do you think that Spirit can do it back to back with no chopper? 3120 02:54:57,277 --> 02:55:03,186 [Devilwalk] I think Spirit has a great opportunity to win this event. 3121 02:55:01,444 --> 02:55:04,182 [BanKs] Mm-hmm. 3122 02:55:04,248 --> 02:55:09,998 [Devilwalk] I think they found some kind of success in the last events. 3123 02:55:10,338 --> 02:55:12,041 [Devilwalk] I loved watching them play. 3124 02:55:12,483 --> 02:55:15,487 [Devilwalk] Loved seeing the unleashed players in Spirit. 3125 02:55:15,468 --> 02:55:28,245 [Devilwalk] i think if that continues to happen i think this is their tournament i think the other teams yes they might have higher potential in a longer time 3126 02:55:28,225 --> 02:55:41,103 [Devilwalk] like space like falcons i think if they get up and running it's gonna take them a few weeks in my book i might be wrong on that but that's why i see spirit being the winners of this event 3127 02:55:36,004 --> 02:55:55,600 [BanKs] be interested to see if they can go back to back without chopper there but if chopper i don't know if he is but if chopper's streaming in the arena that'd be even hilarious as well he's still there to see see what happens watch what's going on um so i picked falcons by no surprise 3128 02:55:48,711 --> 02:55:53,371 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 3129 02:55:55,579 --> 02:55:58,022 [BanKs] I think Falcons hit the ground running. 3130 02:55:58,504 --> 02:56:00,846 [BanKs] Kerrigan comes out, Batman mask on. 3131 02:56:01,448 --> 02:56:04,272 [BanKs] Some mechanical wings go out the back of him. 3132 02:56:04,291 --> 02:56:06,033 [BanKs] And he arrives. 3133 02:56:06,415 --> 02:56:08,577 [BanKs] I don't know if they can make him fly out from the ceiling or something. 3134 02:56:08,597 --> 02:56:09,138 [BanKs] That'd be cool. 3135 02:56:10,200 --> 02:56:11,120 [BanKs] Big enough arena. 3136 02:56:11,561 --> 02:56:12,202 [BanKs] Big enough arena. 3137 02:56:11,948 --> 02:56:20,423 [Devilwalk] Oh. 3138 02:56:12,222 --> 02:56:12,963 [BanKs] It could be possible. 3139 02:56:13,905 --> 02:56:15,326 [BanKs] But either way... 3140 02:56:15,307 --> 02:56:17,049 [BanKs] Finally, another trophy for Falcons. 3141 02:56:17,068 --> 02:56:18,171 [BanKs] He does it on the first go. 3142 02:56:18,490 --> 02:56:20,933 [BanKs] I will say, I am megally coping here. 3143 02:56:21,054 --> 02:56:22,495 [BanKs] I just believe in Kerrigan. 3144 02:56:23,537 --> 02:56:31,747 [BanKs] This isn't some hardcore analysis, but I do honestly, with my heart, predict that Falcons will either win PGL Astana or CAC. 3145 02:56:31,768 --> 02:56:35,172 [BanKs] CAC is an even lower down set of teams and players. 3146 02:56:36,399 --> 02:56:43,754 [BanKs] So one of these two, Astana or CAC, because CAC, by the way, it's Falcons, Mongols, ParaVision, Maus, 3D Max, Legacy, Bait type like. 3147 02:56:44,175 --> 02:56:47,462 [BanKs] Falcons should definitely win that with a Kerrigan. 3148 02:56:47,469 --> 02:56:58,672 [Devilwalk] I mean, all I'm going to say is that every single event they've gone to, they've been slightly predicted as winners of an event. 3149 02:56:47,483 --> 02:56:48,405 [BanKs] But we're going to learn a lot. 3150 02:56:48,424 --> 02:56:49,768 [BanKs] We're going to see a lot from all of this. 3151 02:56:58,932 --> 02:57:04,061 [Devilwalk] Even some events where Vitality has been there, people have talked to me about 3152 02:57:05,424 --> 02:57:07,971 [Devilwalk] about Falcons winning the event. 3153 02:57:07,992 --> 02:57:10,397 [Devilwalk] It's 100% every single time. 3154 02:57:10,458 --> 02:57:16,735 [Devilwalk] And last time I checked, the last trophy they had, Monese wasn't even on the roster. 3155 02:57:14,504 --> 02:57:15,125 [BanKs] It's only one. 3156 02:57:17,015 --> 02:57:19,823 [Devilwalk] They won PGL Bucharest with Degster. 3157 02:57:17,308 --> 02:57:17,670 [BanKs] Yeah. 3158 02:57:20,254 --> 02:57:30,893 [BanKs] Yep. 3159 02:57:22,165 --> 02:57:29,740 [Devilwalk] I cannot for the life of me just say that Falcon is going to win this event with that in the back. 3160 02:57:30,913 --> 02:57:31,533 [BanKs] Kerrigan. 3161 02:57:34,788 --> 02:57:35,510 [BanKs] Difference maker. 3162 02:57:35,810 --> 02:57:36,152 [BanKs] That's it. 3163 02:57:36,311 --> 02:57:37,093 [BanKs] That's all I need to say. 3164 02:57:38,420 --> 02:57:38,520 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 3165 02:57:38,597 --> 02:57:38,998 [BanKs] I believe. 3166 02:57:39,219 --> 02:57:39,640 [BanKs] I believe. 3167 02:57:41,045 --> 02:57:42,087 [BanKs] But that is the end of the episode. 3168 02:57:42,108 --> 02:57:42,829 [BanKs] We finally got there. 3169 02:57:42,870 --> 02:57:43,933 [BanKs] Three hours or something in. 3170 02:57:44,795 --> 02:57:45,817 [BanKs] Some umming and ahhing. 3171 02:57:45,837 --> 02:57:47,683 [BanKs] Some craziness from all of us as always. 3172 02:57:46,380 --> 02:57:48,344 [Devilwalk] We have one Q&A question. 3173 02:57:48,709 --> 02:57:52,278 [BanKs] We didn't ask these questions very... We asked for these questions at 11 p.m. 3174 02:57:52,653 --> 02:57:52,792 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 3175 02:57:52,979 --> 02:57:54,744 [BanKs] Okay, so this is from Pebble. 3176 02:57:54,965 --> 02:57:55,745 [BanKs] What a lovely name. 3177 02:57:55,787 --> 02:57:56,507 [BanKs] Hello, Pebble. 3178 02:57:56,528 --> 02:57:57,409 [BanKs] I hope you're doing well. 3179 02:57:57,992 --> 02:57:59,534 [BanKs] As you are our only question sender in. 3180 02:57:59,615 --> 02:58:03,584 [BanKs] We've actually screwed Skorga here and his record is broken because we didn't ask early enough. 3181 02:58:03,604 --> 02:58:05,790 [BanKs] He'll be sleeping by the time we ask. 3182 02:58:03,673 --> 02:58:03,833 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 3183 02:58:05,770 --> 02:58:16,101 [BanKs] do you prefer igls who play the worst roles such as b anchor or those who play the harder positions like yard or nuke 3184 02:58:13,802 --> 02:58:33,010 [Devilwalk] Thank you. 3185 02:58:16,081 --> 02:58:36,097 [BanKs] i think it depends on your calling style because if you're if you're an igl who needs to be in like the active line of it all and hear everything and see everything to make your decisions then you need to play in the more active roles but then some like a character who loves to play the anchor and then rely on the information he gets from teammates but sometimes if your communication is not good it can throw things off 3186 02:58:36,077 --> 02:58:42,070 [BanKs] If I prefer one more than the other, I'd probably say like I want to see stars in those active positions and those kind of roles. 3187 02:58:42,531 --> 02:58:50,407 [BanKs] So I would say the IGL who likes to play the worst roles, the anchor positions is probably preferable for me, CW. 3188 02:58:51,737 --> 02:58:58,592 [Devilwalk] I mean I don't think IGLs should play anchor roles at all. 3189 02:58:59,853 --> 02:59:01,397 [Devilwalk] I think that's really really bad. 3190 02:59:01,778 --> 02:59:06,166 [Devilwalk] I think that's when you utilize an IGL in probably the worst way you can. 3191 02:59:06,388 --> 02:59:08,531 [Devilwalk] You isolate them on the map. 3192 02:59:08,512 --> 02:59:13,761 [Devilwalk] I think an IGL has more impact on the game than being isolated in that space. 3193 02:59:15,102 --> 02:59:25,220 [Devilwalk] Now, there are certain rotation roles and certain positions on the map, especially on CT sides where 3194 02:59:27,309 --> 02:59:32,004 [Devilwalk] You need someone who has great mechanical ability to play them. 3195 02:59:33,554 --> 02:59:47,845 [Devilwalk] But hopefully you can pair, you know, like a short and con with one IGL and one really hard hitting and you kind of support the hard hitting person a little bit more from those positions. 3196 02:59:48,647 --> 02:59:52,996 [Devilwalk] But it is like Banks is saying, like it depends a lot on... Okay. 3197 02:59:52,977 --> 03:00:11,509 [Devilwalk] if you have someone playing yard new and he's really good at shooting and he gets 1-2 kills every round but he's really bad at conveying information he'll probably lose more rounds even if he gets the kills on the board just because 3198 03:00:10,459 --> 03:00:10,835 [BanKs] Yeah. 3199 03:00:11,488 --> 03:00:13,152 [Devilwalk] He's bad at conveying information. 3200 03:00:13,692 --> 03:00:19,584 [Devilwalk] If you have someone who's good at conveying information, you can sometimes win on a map like Nuke that is CT favored. 3201 03:00:19,665 --> 03:00:27,219 [Devilwalk] If you have your rotation system in place, you'll be able to trap them and give opportunities to more players to get kills. 3202 03:00:27,200 --> 03:00:44,162 [Devilwalk] it might not be just visible as we see look at it just contextually yard yard we have to look at how fast can they rotate do they get the opportunity to even block them before they can choose short or long stairs in lower 3203 03:00:34,270 --> 03:00:51,907 [BanKs] Mm-hmm. 3204 03:00:44,141 --> 03:00:50,554 [Devilwalk] Or is it that they can already be down and you can't rotate vent and you need to take lobby and go ramp? 3205 03:00:51,274 --> 03:00:59,970 [Devilwalk] This can fuck up a lot of things if you're not fast enough with conveying the information of when the fastest timing is when they can be down yard. 3206 03:01:00,432 --> 03:01:04,158 [Devilwalk] So a lot depends on how fast and accurate 3207 03:01:04,138 --> 03:01:22,384 [Devilwalk] the information is conveyed if a star player can do that great then put the star player there but if they can't i'd rather have a zero frag in your player who conveys the information correctly because you don't really need it that much on nuke you can play it in different ways 3208 03:01:10,957 --> 03:01:11,502 [BanKs] Nico. 3209 03:01:23,477 --> 03:01:24,059 [BanKs] There you go. 3210 03:01:24,101 --> 03:01:25,225 [BanKs] Beautifully said. 3211 03:01:25,264 --> 03:01:27,273 [BanKs] DevWalk knowledge. 3212 03:01:27,373 --> 03:01:28,198 [BanKs] Bomb dropped. 3213 03:01:28,270 --> 03:01:34,338 [Devilwalk] It's not impossible. 3214 03:01:28,860 --> 03:01:31,631 [BanKs] Like Falcons is going to do in the stuff. 3215 03:01:32,995 --> 03:01:34,138 [BanKs] Wait, watch this. 3216 03:01:34,359 --> 03:01:35,200 [Devilwalk] I'm not saying no. 3217 03:01:35,521 --> 03:01:36,561 [Devilwalk] I'm not saying no to it. 3218 03:01:35,761 --> 03:01:37,765 [BanKs] Watch this be completely wrong, though. 3219 03:01:37,806 --> 03:01:41,434 [BanKs] Watch this go completely like... It'll be me, this bites in the ass 100%. 3220 03:01:42,477 --> 03:01:44,322 [BanKs] But I am excited to see it. 3221 03:01:44,502 --> 03:01:48,431 [BanKs] I think everyone's excited to see Kerrigan back, especially after how Faze performs, you know? 3222 03:01:46,537 --> 03:01:47,257 [Devilwalk] I am as well. 3223 03:01:48,470 --> 03:01:49,654 [BanKs] So it's going to make... 3224 03:01:49,634 --> 03:01:51,717 [BanKs] It's going to make some beautiful counter-strike over the next few days. 3225 03:01:51,756 --> 03:01:54,260 [BanKs] Let us know what you are preferring to watch and stay up for. 3226 03:01:54,280 --> 03:01:58,626 [BanKs] Are you guys focused more on watching Atlanta or Astana right now? 3227 03:01:58,726 --> 03:01:59,606 [BanKs] Both beginning with A's. 3228 03:01:59,666 --> 03:02:00,709 [BanKs] PGL, Astana. 3229 03:02:00,949 --> 03:02:01,450 [BanKs] I will be there. 3230 03:02:01,489 --> 03:02:02,310 [BanKs] So there you go. 3231 03:02:02,331 --> 03:02:03,092 [BanKs] That gives you more reason. 3232 03:02:03,551 --> 03:02:05,093 [BanKs] And there's IAM Atlanta. 3233 03:02:05,114 --> 03:02:05,274 [BanKs] No. 3234 03:02:05,854 --> 03:02:06,415 [BanKs] Yeah, IAM Atlanta. 3235 03:02:06,435 --> 03:02:07,096 [BanKs] I guess it's IAM. 3236 03:02:07,197 --> 03:02:08,158 [BanKs] Are they all IAMs now? 3237 03:02:08,179 --> 03:02:09,280 [BanKs] Or is it just ESL? 3238 03:02:09,765 --> 03:02:11,610 [BanKs] Yeah, it's an IM Atlanta, so there's that one as well. 3239 03:02:09,985 --> 03:02:10,826 [Devilwalk] I think I am. 3240 03:02:12,291 --> 03:02:13,674 [BanKs] Yeah, let us know what you'll be watching. 3241 03:02:13,854 --> 03:02:18,665 [BanKs] Devwalk, you are going to be on Atlanta duties because I'll need to work Astana and the time difference I cannot do. 3242 03:02:18,685 --> 03:02:22,694 [BanKs] You need... 3243 03:02:19,727 --> 03:02:20,108 [Devilwalk] We'll see. 3244 03:02:20,609 --> 03:02:21,030 [Devilwalk] We'll see. 3245 03:02:22,111 --> 03:02:26,441 [Devilwalk] I think if I can't be up, I will be rewatching the games. 3246 03:02:26,927 --> 03:02:27,189 [BanKs] Good. 3247 03:02:27,408 --> 03:02:32,019 [BanKs] I'm going to need you to because I'm going to see probably nothing because I'm already looking at the times, yeah? 3248 03:02:32,659 --> 03:02:35,325 [BanKs] Some of the games end midnight, but it starts at an okay time for you. 3249 03:02:36,347 --> 03:02:37,590 [BanKs] What's the time in Astana now? 3250 03:02:37,709 --> 03:02:40,575 [BanKs] Time in Astana now. 3251 03:02:41,538 --> 03:02:45,746 [BanKs] It is 6.43, so they are four hours ahead of me right now. 3252 03:02:45,727 --> 03:02:47,798 [BanKs] So it's gonna get crazy late. 3253 03:02:47,817 --> 03:02:49,307 [BanKs] But either way, we're done for another episode. 3254 03:02:49,346 --> 03:02:50,674 [BanKs] Any closing thoughts, my friend? 3255 03:02:52,087 --> 03:02:53,652 [Devilwalk] I mean, like, subscribe. 3256 03:02:53,711 --> 03:02:54,533 [Devilwalk] It helps us a lot. 3257 03:02:54,754 --> 03:02:55,797 [Devilwalk] Comment. 3258 03:02:55,836 --> 03:02:59,165 [Devilwalk] We'll make sure to answer your comments on YouTube. 3259 03:02:59,264 --> 03:03:04,496 [Devilwalk] And I think we should be starting to answer comments on Spotify and stuff like that. 3260 03:03:04,537 --> 03:03:09,067 [Devilwalk] But we haven't really gotten into that technique yet. 3261 03:03:09,587 --> 03:03:11,780 [BanKs] Spotify is harder, definitely harder. 3262 03:03:11,360 --> 03:03:12,868 [Devilwalk] Yeah, it's harder. 3263 03:03:12,221 --> 03:03:17,269 [BanKs] Yeah, it's not as easy. 3264 03:03:13,331 --> 03:03:19,040 [Devilwalk] I'd rather leave them on YouTube if I'm completely honest, but yeah. 3265 03:03:17,451 --> 03:03:30,059 [BanKs] if you can if you can but yeah another episode drop thank you very much for watching everyone we will do the next episode at the end of both a star i will try from astana to do it again 3266 03:03:30,040 --> 03:03:43,648 [BanKs] But I'm not going to promise anything considering I'm traveling with wife and baby to Astana and back, which means we might drop the next episode like on the 18th when I land back in Portugal. 3267 03:03:44,431 --> 03:03:47,677 [BanKs] And then we have to cover the fallout of that into CAC. 3268 03:03:45,041 --> 03:04:02,847 [Devilwalk] Yeah. 3269 03:03:47,657 --> 03:03:49,559 [BanKs] So we'll see how it will be either way. 3270 03:03:50,021 --> 03:03:51,243 [BanKs] Thank you very much for watching as always. 3271 03:03:51,282 --> 03:03:53,264 [BanKs] Like DevWalk said, like, comment, subscribe. 3272 03:03:53,284 --> 03:03:54,207 [BanKs] Subscribe is the important one. 3273 03:03:54,227 --> 03:03:56,530 [BanKs] We got so many more subscribers in the last episode. 3274 03:03:56,549 --> 03:03:57,390 [BanKs] So some of you enjoying it. 3275 03:03:57,730 --> 03:04:00,495 [BanKs] If you are enjoying it, do continue to support in any way you can. 3276 03:04:00,975 --> 03:04:05,441 [BanKs] And we'll see you on the next episode on either the 18th or 19th of May. 3277 03:04:06,242 --> 03:04:06,763 [BanKs] Peace.